Diesel's TOD.. Spanish Style...

[Diesel]

Hawks Outgoing ..

Lorenzen Wright

6-11 C from Memphis

2.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.6 apg in 15.5 minutes

Tyronn Lue

6-0 PG from Nebraska

11.4 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.6 apg in 26.5 minutes

Al Horford

6-9 from Florida

No games yet played in 2006/07

Marvin Williams

6-8 SF from North Carolina

13.0 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.8 apg in 33.8 minutes

Incoming

Pau Gasol

7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)

20.8 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 3.4 apg in 36.1 minutes

Juan Carlos Navarro

0-0 from

No games yet played in 2006/07

Change in team outlook: -6.2 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and -2.6 apg.

2008 first round pick protected top 10 from Washington.

Memphis Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Pau Gasol

7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)

20.8 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 3.4 apg in 36.1 minutes

Incoming

Lorenzen Wright

6-11 C from Memphis

2.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.6 apg in 15.5 minutes

Tyronn Lue

6-0 PG from Nebraska

11.4 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.6 apg in 26.5 minutes

Al Horford

6-9 from Florida

No games yet played in 2006/07

Brendan Haywood

7-0 C from North Carolina

6.6 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.6 minutes

Change in team outlook: -0.2 ppg, +1.5 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Washington Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Juan Carlos Navarro

0-0 from

No games yet played in 2006/07

Brendan Haywood

7-0 C from North Carolina

6.6 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.6 minutes

1st round pick 2008 (Protected top 10).

Incoming

Marvin Williams

6-8 SF from North Carolina

13.0 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.8 apg in 33.8 minutes

Change in team outlook: +6.4 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and +1.2 apg.

Successful Scenario

[drzachary]

[macdaddy]

Slow day on the old squawk...

I know people don't like just smart ass answers so:

Horford and Marvin aren't going anywhere. I'll be pleasantly surprised if we move AJ or Lue or Lo before the season. Other than that this is our team. Its a good team and its one our owners can afford.

[Diesel]

Just coming from a quote from Navarro who basically said that Gasol has given an ultimatum to Memphis that they must get Navarro...

I believe Gasol's days in Memphis are numbered...

[DrReality]

Dr Z.:

Wish I'd said that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the only response worthy of D's post.

[DavidSomerset]

That is one of the worst trade proposals I've ever seen.

Marvin, Horford, and valuable expiring contracts for Gasol and a more than likely pick in the 20's??

HELL NO!!!

[cowa]

Just wondering why Washington would give up Navarro and a #1 pick (along with Haywood) for a SF withgreat potential, when they have Butler there already, and they just signed Stevenson to a 3 year deal? I don't see this one flying at all.

[shug94]

I don't see why Washington doesn't just bring Navarro over and sign him up, and then try to trade for an unhappy Pau at the Deadline.

[Diesel]

I don't think Washington has the player value to get Gasol..> Nor do I think Carlos would play there. HOwever, if there's a fire sale on Gasol, then maybe he can be traded for a package like Butler/Heywood but Washington would also have to be willing to take on a bad contract.

I think one of the problems here on HS is that people don't realize how good Gasol really is.

I mean, they say... How great Marvin/Horford is but Have Marvin/Horford ever single handedly led their team to the playoffs???

Have they ever been to an allstar game? Have they ever led their team over the US National Basketball team? The combo of Gasol and Navarro are part of the reason why America doesn't win gold anymore.

This is a true fact here, Gasol is about one of the top 15 players in the game and he is definitely a game changer. Marvin is hope and so is Horford.

About Juan Carlos Navarro... I can't say that I know a lot about him, but Gasol has made it his business to want the guy. From what I have read, JCN is a pure PG with a stroke...

Click.

[Duff_Man]

Do you really think these through, or do you just type the word "Marvin Williams" and then shake a magic 8-ball and fill in the rest?

[AHF]

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Have they ever led their team over the US National Basketball team?

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I think this is a good test for all American players who are only eligible to play for the US National team.

Seriously, that is a point in favor of Gasol but the fact that Marvin and Horford haven't done this is to be expected, not criticized.

[Diesel]

It's not a criticism... It's just a point. Marvin nor Horford is not even on the level of being asked to play on the American team. This is potentially an opportunity to get one of the top 5-10 Big men playing the game, one of the top 15 players playing.

We have become so inoculated with BK's thoughts on Marvin and Horford that we believe somehow that they are UNTOUCHABLE? Please tell me why? We can get a top PF in the game and we're busy worried about potential?? If that's the case, then we should have never traded Diaw for JJ.

Winning teams make Winning moves. Us having JJ, Smoove, and Gasol on the same team would make us a winning team.

[AHF]

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Marvin nor Horford is not even on the level of being asked to play on the American team.

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Other than a couple of charity cases like JJ Reddick, only a very select group of players gets asked to play on the American team. Why would Marvin get asked when they already have Carmelo and Lebron at SF? The depth is the same at most of the remainder of the team as well. You need to be a true star to get on the team (unless you have some discrete skill and they think you can be a role player like long-range shooting or defensive specialist).

I agree that neither Marvin nor Horford are untouchable and that our team would be a lot better with Gasol on it. I think the deal would have to be the right one because he is pretty expensive but building around Josh Smith, JJ and Gasol would be a great foundation.