atlien Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 I didnt wanna make a new thread out of it. But, you mentioned there was talk of getting Gasol and then getting Calderon (but it fell through when we couldnt get Gasol). I personally think those would have been the best moves we couldve made due to the fact that they would fit in so well with our current players (athletic, up tempo, etc.). What did those deals look like (just the basics... im really curious about this one as I'd STILL like to see us pursue it)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnArborHawk Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Sothron, keep the info coming as you can, my friend. HS appreciates you. Best wishes on your recovery and Godspeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Quote: Sothron what kinda car were you driving when you got into an accident? Was it a nissan 350z? oh wait, that's what I drive . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 20, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Is that like a Puritan vampire or something? Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 20, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Quote: I didnt wanna make a new thread out of it. But, you mentioned there was talk of getting Gasol and then getting Calderon (but it fell through when we couldnt get Gasol). I personally think those would have been the best moves we couldve made due to the fact that they would fit in so well with our current players (athletic, up tempo, etc.). What did those deals look like (just the basics... im really curious about this one as I'd STILL like to see us pursue it)? IIRC the Raptors wanted the 11th pick and possibly Chill and we would have gotten Calderon. But when the Gasol deal fell through we didn't see the need to trade two pieces like that for Calderon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 BK should have pulled the trigger on that one. That's part of the problem with BK IMO. He has this longterm plan and he is going to just ride it out no matter what. Reminds me of one of those WWI Generals they profile on the History Channel. They couldn't adapt so they just kept sending guys over the top to their doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlien Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Thanks for the feedback. With the way Calderon has been playing this season, I hope BK is still looking into acquiring him (if BK even has the ability to do so, considering the ownership fiasco). Wow, trading both picks and maybe even Chill for Gasol and Calderon would have been amazing. We'd be a top 3 team in the east, and would have the entire country of Spain behind us! But like you said, it takes 2 to tango, and I could see why Memphis wouldn't want to deal a proven stud like Gasol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 First, the Gasol "deal" was likely never close to happening. Second, many on this board to include myself, thought that we could trade our 11th pick for Calderon. I don't think that was ever the case because the Raps valued him as a great contributor that would play major minutes going forward. The other deal was Chill for him straight up. I would have done that as well because we need a PG like Calderon more than another SF. I'm not sure that Chill for Calderon was ever discussed but I would still do it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawstudent101 Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Hey Sothron, don't listen to me dude. I'm just a young kid here trying to stir the pot and have fun. Honestly I hope you recover very soon and wish all the best for you. You have taken my posts with a grain of salt and with a sense of humor for that I thank you my good sir, and I respect you very much. For all the other idiots who bash me because you think I'm serious, that's fine, I find it funny and I enjoy it. And yes I go to to law school, and yes I drive a 350z and no my father didn't buy it for me, it was bought playing online poker for the past year and 1/2. I know most of you drive old beat up hondas so don't be jealous. and most of all FIRE WOODY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Quote: ...I know most of you drive old beat up hondas so don't be jealous. and most of all FIRE WOODY. LOL...we can't ban this person...he/she is a HOOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 20, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Quote: I know most of you drive old beat up hondas so don't be jealous. ^^^(That's not mine, but close). 99 Civic that gets 34 mpg and PROUD of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawstudent101 Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 I know sir, it's okay to be proud to be poor, just don't spill the hate over on those who are better than yourself. Then we'll have problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 20, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Quote: I know sir, it's okay to be proud to be poor I never said I was poor. I simply think more of myself than what kind of car or job I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawstudent101 Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 And I don't? Just because I have mentioned my car or my job doesn't mean that those things totally determine my self worth. I just think we have a communcation break down here. A misunderstanding. Care to call for a truce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 20, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Quote: Care to call for a truce? I'm just joshin' (appropriate for a Hawks' board) ya', LS101. No harm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawstudent101 Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Fair enough my good sir! No harm no foul. If only all the other posters were as reasonable as you and Sothron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHayley Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 LOL you are a joke. What law school do you go to, genius? Oh wait--you're some 12 year old nerd who lives in Alpharetta and has his mom wipe his butt for him still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Quote: Pete - When Jay Walker takes the time to revisit the Squawk and endorse Sothron as he did last year before the draft, that carries a lot of weight with me. I think it should carry some real weight for any Hawks fan. I would say to let Sothron post. If he posts something that turns out to be clearly wrong then jump on him for it. If you just doubt his credibility, think of the endorsement and give him some rope. (Sothron also has been a good Hawks poster for years without issue prior to beginning to post information from his source.) Or at least spare giving yourself too much rope, TP. There are many here who know Sothron better than you do and whose presence here extends well into the Jaywalker era. Those who don't would do well to heed us (and Jaywalker) in this regard instead of looking the fool. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Quote: First, the Gasol "deal" was likely never close to happening. Second, many on this board to include myself, thought that we could trade our 11th pick for Calderon. I don't think that was ever the case because the Raps valued him as a great contributor that would play major minutes going forward. The other deal was Chill for him straight up. I would have done that as well because we need a PG like Calderon more than another SF. I'm not sure that Chill for Calderon was ever discussed but I would still do it now. The fact that Sothron posted (early) reports the Hawks were considering things others might consider credible only supports the likelihood that Sothron is reporting what a Hawk insider said! How does the fact that his postings were credible ideas suggest that they were not factual and true in that they came from somewhere within the Hawk's organization? It's just the opposite. Maybe that makes them less groundbreaking to some, but "being the lesser miracle" (Occam's razor) only makes them more believable even if you have no knowledge of Sothron, his friend Jaywalker, Jaywalkers outright support of Sothron's postings, etc. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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