OT: Calderon currently 3rd in PER for PG's.

[mrhonline]

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Hollinger Stats: Player Efficiency Rating - Point Guard

RNK Player GP Min FG% FT% TS% Ast TO Usg ORR DRR Reb PER

1 Chris Paul, NOR 10 35.0 .507 .905 .593 34.9 12.0 28.3 2.6 11.8 7.3 30.19

2 Steve Nash, PHO 10 33.8 .550 1.000 .679 35.6 15.4 25.1 1.3 10.1 5.9 24.35

3 Jose Calderon, TOR 10 18.9 .508 .900 .584 42.5 9.1 22.1 1.2 13.0 7.0 24.04

4 Chauncey Billups, DET 8 33.3 .450 .892 .593 30.3 8.9 23.6 0.9 8.4 4.8 23.75

5 T.J. Ford, TOR 10 28.7 .488 .862 .552 33.4 9.9 26.7 2.3 7.4 4.8 23.20

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If the Hawks renounce Childress' cap hold, they then have some $8-10M to sign a free agent.

Any takers on Calderon over Childress?

[AnnArborHawk]

He's really playing lights out in limited minutes....wish we could've gotten the Calderon + Gasol magic done this offseason...

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Hollinger Stats: Player Efficiency Rating - Point Guard

RNK Player GP Min FG% FT% TS% Ast TO Usg ORR DRR Reb PER

1 Chris Paul, NOR 10 35.0 .507 .905 .593 34.9 12.0 28.3 2.6 11.8 7.3 30.19

2 Steve Nash, PHO 10 33.8 .550 1.000 .679 35.6 15.4 25.1 1.3 10.1 5.9 24.35

3 Jose Calderon, TOR 10 18.9 .508 .900 .584 42.5 9.1 22.1 1.2 13.0 7.0 24.04

4 Chauncey Billups, DET 8 33.3 .450 .892 .593 30.3 8.9 23.6 0.9 8.4 4.8 23.75

5 T.J. Ford, TOR 10 28.7 .488 .862 .552 33.4 9.9 26.7 2.3 7.4 4.8 23.20

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If the Hawks renounce Childress' cap hold, they then have some $8-10M to sign a free agent.

Any takers on Calderon over Childress?

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There is no way they would let us sign him outright. we would have to trade for him. Best case scenario would be Childress for Calderon straight up. I doubt we have that kind of luck though.

[AnnArborHawk]

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There is no way they would let us sign him outright. we would have to trade for him. Best case scenario would be Childress for Calderon straight up. I doubt we have that kind of luck though.

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They might. They have $8mil/yr tied up in T.J. Ford. I doubt they'd match an offer for Calderon that was much higher than $5mil. That's a lot of money to tie up in one position.

On the other hand, I'd be more interested in some immediate PG help. After this year, hopefully Law will be seasoned enough to make a big leap next year and take over.

[Eddielives]

I would absolutely love to get Calderon. He would immediately make this team much better. I see his name brought up a lot here. Is he rumored to be available or is it just that he will be a free agent?

[DJlaysitup]

I would agree with doing a deal for him...but send him to a knee specialist first

[atlien]

I've been touting Calderon harder than anyone else (again, Im up in Canada and watch all the Raptor's games).

It's not JUST that he happens to be one of the better PGs in the league (and is the best backup by far), it's also that he brings the EXACT skill set we need from a pg.

Just look at his hoopshype profile (which is quite accurate actually):

Plays aggressive and unselfish basketball... Very positive attitude... Solid defense... Great legs... Very athletic... Likes to push the ball... Good distributor... Very good getting layups... Has improved his often inconsistent outside shot... More of a playmaker than a scorer.

He excels playing an athletic, up tempo brand of basketball.

Sound like something we need?

The thing is, while I think Acie will be very good, I ultimately think that Calderon would be a much better fit long-term. He would do wonders for this team offensively (getting Marvin, Smoove, Joe and Horf the ball in positions where they can score more effectively).

So, maybe we need to include Acie in that deal. That way, they get another very good (but not quite as good) pg.

And, why do we really need Acie if we have Calderon as our pg of the future?

Again, no knock on Acie (who I like a lot and think will be a great player), I just like Calderon more for the Hawks.

[MemphisX]

...that scrub Mike Conley is 6th at 21.81.

[SmooveTheFuture]

Give them Childress and Zaza for him he is hands down the best back up PG in the NBA and would be one of the best starters if he got a chance to start. He can run the break, shoot the rock, run a team in the half court offense and he with the best of them. Childress is expandable I dont care what people on here say he wont get much better then he is now and he tends to show up once every 3 or 4 games. I think one of the main reasons Smith wasnt signed was because they didnt wanna leave Childress out in the cold and it affect his play during the season. if he continues to struggle I think he will be traded by the deadline or in the summer.

[AnnArborHawk]

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I would agree with doing a deal for him...but send him to a knee specialist first

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Amen to that.

As a side note, I've got a theory that ASG is making Speedy earn his paycheck as Harry The Hawk.

[AHF]

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...that scrub Mike Conley is 6th at 21.81.

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I think Conley is going to be good but the numbers right now are not very meaningful for anyone due to small sample size. Given Conley limited minutes, they mean even less. Good start, but he hasn't even played the equivalent of two full games yet.

[atlien]

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I would agree with doing a deal for him...but send him to a knee specialist first

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And that's another thing. Calderon is built really well. He has an almost impeccable injury history (i.e. he's not injury prone at all).

The problem is, TJ Ford IS incredibly injury prone, so I tihnk the Raps may hang on to Calderon as insurance so to speak.

The more I tihnk about it, we'd have to send them Acie to get Calderon (they need a quality backup given Ford's injury history). I would do it tho, for the reasons mentioned above.

[DJlaysitup]

I wouldn't give up Acie though. Acie can do double duty as a backup PG and a backup SG. He seems like the kind of kid who learns fast, is coachable, and will improve over time.

Besides, if we were to trade JC we would need a backup SG anyway.

[coachx]

If Law does not perform this year I would be all for it.

Can't sign on the dotted line until I see more then 5 1/2 games from Law.

[DJlaysitup]

Maybe we could work TLue into some sort of a deal..that would give them a backup PG.

[atlien]

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Maybe we could work TLue into some sort of a deal..that would give them a backup PG.

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I wish. Colangelo isnt so dumb (I wish he was tho). Lue would be a HORRIBLE fit in their offense (which is fluid with 2 great distibutors in Ford and Calderon).

I just dont see them trading Calderon without getting back a good backup (and I dont think Lue or AJ would be what they want).

Again, dont get me wrong. I really like Acie (and I also think he could be a backup at pg and sg, the way Chill is with sg and sf), but I'd like to give Calderon 35/minutes a night at the pg spot for us... so it might make sense to trade Acie (if that's what it takes for Toronto to do it).

But yeah, Id want to do this a little bit later in the season. I too wanna see what Acie can actually do! Still, Calderon would be an amazing fit here (he's 6'3 210 too, and you KNOW BK would like that!)

[atlien]

Also, we have to keep in mind that Calderon IS coming up for an extension, and he will be coveted.

Toronto already has a very good starter in Ford. Calderon knows he's starter material. His agent knows it. So does Colangelo.

I think he's gonna get dealt to someone (unless they deal Ford and try to go with Calderon full time). Whether it happens this season, or during the summer, its gonna happen. His value is just not maximized as a backup.

I'd defintitely rather give the money we'd give to Chill, to Calderon instead!

[bfwolf]

Isn't a little naive to say let's wait and see if Acie is good before we trade him for Calderon? If Acie doesn't play well the rest of the year, his trade stock plummets and we have to throw in more to pry Calderon away. It's a bit of a catch 22, either Acie is good and we don't need Calderon, or Acie sucks and we can't use him to get Calderon.

I'm actually convinced that Acie will be a good NBA PG even if he doesn't play great this season. I would hate to trade him for 75 cents on the dollar if he has a rookie year that doesn't meet unrealistic expectations. I'd rather trade him now while his value is still high or just simply hold onto him no matter how well he plays from here on out.

[mrhonline]

Calderon recently said he'd like a bigger role with the Raptors, but they can't play the two PGs together. Also, his good buddy Garbajosa is very unhappy with his limited playing time.

I'd like to trade for both, knowing that Garbs could play some backup forward if you trade Childress. The easiest route would be to go after him in the summer, but if you trade I think you can look at the following:

1 of Lue/AJ (take your pick)

1 of Childress/Shelden (take your pick)

1 of Salim/Jones (Salim if Shelden, Jones if Childress)

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Calderon

Garbajosa (Calderon insurance)

1 of Delfino/Graham/Dixon (reserve wing)

There are several combos that work, but since Graham isn't going to get much PT, and Childress is a better player than Shelden, this is the best combo for Toronto:

AJ/Childress/Jones -for- Calderon/Garbs/Graham

That saves Toronto ~$6M next year to re-sign Childress with. (He's exactly what they need to, a slasher who can defend and get offensive rebounds).

However, that puts Atlanta at $46M with Smith and Calderon still unsigned. Getting them Shelden instead of Childress is in Atlanta's best interest:

Lue/Shelden/Salim -for- Calderon/Garbs/Graham

[DJlaysitup]

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...It's a bit of a catch 22, either Acie is good and we don't need Calderon, or Acie sucks and we can't use him to get Calderon...

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That's always the case in trades BD, and apparently BK can't handle those type of decisions. I think he operates more out of fear that a player he trades will "blow up" and make him look bad than he operates out of a singular desire to make the Hawks better.

In fairness, it could also be that BK is handcuffed by the Hawks ownership.