Premium Member Diesel Posted November 29, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: But I see Joe Johnson sitting in a chair in front of his locker, like a jewel in a landfill, and I'm certain I haven't witnessed such pathos since watching Charlie Chaplin in "The Tramp." "We're just so inconsistent," the Hawks guard said before Wednesday's game against Milwaukee. "It's frustrating. We play the teams that we think we should beat, the teams that supposedly are not so good, and we tend to let our guard down. Then we get hit right in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Last night there were a couple of times when the camera did a closeup of JJ after he made a shot and he was shaking his head in obvious disgust. I think our lack of execution is getting on his last nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Where did the quotes come from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 29, 2007 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Jeff Shultz (AJC) web page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznsensation Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I've noticed this season also that JJ definitely ain't happy. He is truly disgusted with this team. What ever this team is doing or lack there of...he's disgusted and I can see it in his facial expression and interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I think BK lied to Joe's face back when he signed. Yes, he was paid big money but he still wants to win. He likely doesn't see this team as constructed doing all that much. It clearly is a team with flaws. But, I still say that if a Calderon were running our team and getting the ball into the right hands at the right time...it would all take off. BK just doesn't understand how to assemble a team. He has a bunch of nice pieces, each one fine on its own. But the pieces don't mesh, they don't fit right. Add a lousy coach who has been here too long and you get another wasted season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Quote: But I see Joe Johnson sitting in a chair in front of his locker, like a jewel in a landfill, and I'm certain I haven't witnessed such pathos since watching Charlie Chaplin in "The Tramp." "We're just so inconsistent," the Hawks guard said before Wednesday's game against Milwaukee. "It's frustrating. We play the teams that we think we should beat, the teams that supposedly are not so good, and we tend to let our guard down. Then we get hit right in the face. My feelings on Joe Johnson are as follows. He took the money. He's cashing the checks. He knew what he was getting into. I'm not feeling bad for him in regards to "he was promised the Hawks would do X and Y when they signed him." The dude is cashing the checks. Don't cause the drama. You get payed to play a child's sport for christ's sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 1. Josh Smith is shooting 15 shots per game while shooting 36%. 2. ZaZa has played like crap unitl last night. 3. The Chicago game was the worst game of the year. If he were happy enteing last night's game then somthing is wrong with him. I think everyone on the team were probably sharing those same thoughts. At least I hope they were. I was at the Bucks game and Smith and Smoove were suprisingly on better terms then I expected. I saw JJ walk clear across the court on 2 occasions to help Smoove up off the floor and saw them talking in each other's ears between the 2 of them alot. He is frustrated but I don't think he is fed up, yet. On TV you only see certain emotions when the camera is on them. At the game you see their body language every second their on the court when your there. I think last night was just the medicine the Dr. ordered to hopefully let the team move foward. ZaZa finally came around, now we are just waiting on Smoove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Quote: Quote: But I see Joe Johnson sitting in a chair in front of his locker, like a jewel in a landfill, and I'm certain I haven't witnessed such pathos since watching Charlie Chaplin in "The Tramp." "We're just so inconsistent," the Hawks guard said before Wednesday's game against Milwaukee. "It's frustrating. We play the teams that we think we should beat, the teams that supposedly are not so good, and we tend to let our guard down. Then we get hit right in the face. My feelings on Joe Johnson are as follows. He took the money. He's cashing the checks. He knew what he was getting into. I'm not feeling bad for him in regards to "he was promised the Hawks would do X and Y when they signed him." The dude is cashing the checks. Don't cause the drama. You get payed to play a child's sport for christ's sake! You assume that money will make anyone happy. You know better than that. Look at how many athletes, and people in Hollywood do things to flat out ruin their lives, because of unhappyness, even though they have MILLIONS of dollars. The reason why some veteran athletes will take the league minimum to go play on a championship contender, is to experience the thrill of WINNING. It has nothing to do with money. The money JJ makes, only makes his everyday life easier. But on the court, I could definitely see how he'd be miserable right now. As many have said . . Acie is our beacon of hope right now. He may be the missing piece to all of this. I don't think that JJ has ever experienced more than a 4 game winning streak, in the 2.5 years he's been in ATL. But he's experienced quite a few 8 - 10 game losing streaks. That'll drive even the highest paid players to be unhappy ( see KG and Kobe ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnakinJoe Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: I think BK lied to Joe's face back when he signed. Yes, he was paid big money but he still wants to win. He likely doesn't see this team as constructed doing all that much. When BK signed Joe, how was he supposed to know that the ownership group would go through a protracted divorce that has crippled this franchise? The last significant trade that BK made was JJ. Is that because he doesn't like making trades? His previous history as a GM certainly doesn't suggest that. He was forced to deal Al Harrington for non-salaries and we were lucky enough that we got a pick that resulted in Law. But that was a clear sign that we are on a very, very strict budget. Read BK's quotes before the draft. He seemed determined to bring in a vet. But his bosses likely told him to go cheap. BK can be blamed for his draft selections, but I don't blame the guy for operating with a bottom 5 budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddielives Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 I too have been wondering if I was the only one reading Joe's body language that way too. He looks as if he is just simply physically and mentally tired of being the only legitimate scoring option on this team. I don't believe he is going to stop trying but if things don't get better w/ this team on the floor, the organization as far as the Atlanta Spirit and the coaching staff's ability to get these guys playing on the same page, he is going to demand a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 well one thing is for sure. we're in much better shape than last year. the Hawks got off to a decent start last year but in hindsight it was all smoke and mirrors. their best basketball is undoubtably ahead of them. hence no need for the drama, especially from Joe Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordele Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 JJ would not complain as much if he would run the point. look at the big win and you will see he has the most assist. every time he take the ball even close to the lane either chill or marvin get open layups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Quote: Quote: But I see Joe Johnson sitting in a chair in front of his locker, like a jewel in a landfill, and I'm certain I haven't witnessed such pathos since watching Charlie Chaplin in "The Tramp." "We're just so inconsistent," the Hawks guard said before Wednesday's game against Milwaukee. "It's frustrating. We play the teams that we think we should beat, the teams that supposedly are not so good, and we tend to let our guard down. Then we get hit right in the face. My feelings on Joe Johnson are as follows. He took the money. He's cashing the checks. He knew what he was getting into. I'm not feeling bad for him in regards to "he was promised the Hawks would do X and Y when they signed him." The dude is cashing the checks. Don't cause the drama. You get payed to play a child's sport for christ's sake! First of all its paid not payed. Secondly.....double standard much? On the one hand you say he needs to be more vocal then on the other hand you say shut up and play. So which is it? make up your mind Mr Waffler. Also even though his shot has been off he is still averaging 22.5 ppg (13th in the league) and 5.4 assists per game. Both numbers would be higher if his teamates weren't shooting so many blanks. I am still waiting for a list of all the players who are outperforming JJ who make less than he does (and aren't on their rookie contracts). It should be an extensive list if he is so overpaid. I am not sure he is 100% healthy either. I don't think that thing on his calf is a fashion accessory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: But I see Joe Johnson sitting in a chair in front of his locker, like a jewel in a landfill, and I'm certain I haven't witnessed such pathos since watching Charlie Chaplin in "The Tramp." "We're just so inconsistent," the Hawks guard said before Wednesday's game against Milwaukee. "It's frustrating. We play the teams that we think we should beat, the teams that supposedly are not so good, and we tend to let our guard down. Then we get hit right in the face. My feelings on Joe Johnson are as follows. He took the money. He's cashing the checks. He knew what he was getting into. I'm not feeling bad for him in regards to "he was promised the Hawks would do X and Y when they signed him." The dude is cashing the checks. Don't cause the drama. You get payed to play a child's sport for christ's sake! First of all its paid not payed. Secondly.....double standard much? On the one hand you say he needs to be more vocal then on the other hand you say shut up and play. So which is it? make up your mind Mr Waffler. Also even though his shot has been off he is still averaging 22.5 ppg (13th in the league) and 5.4 assits per game. Both numbers would be higher if his teamates weren't shooting so many blanks. I am not sure he is 100% healthy either. I don't think that thing on his calf is a fashion accessory. Joe Johnson is an overrated jumpshooter. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it EX! LOL here comes the shot charts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Since you didn't see my edit i will repost this. "I am still waiting for a list of all the players who are outperforming JJ who make less than he does (and aren't on their rookie contracts). It should be an extensive list if he is so overpaid. " *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Quote: Quote: But I see Joe Johnson sitting in a chair in front of his locker, like a jewel in a landfill, and I'm certain I haven't witnessed such pathos since watching Charlie Chaplin in "The Tramp." "We're just so inconsistent," the Hawks guard said before Wednesday's game against Milwaukee. "It's frustrating. We play the teams that we think we should beat, the teams that supposedly are not so good, and we tend to let our guard down. Then we get hit right in the face. My feelings on Joe Johnson are as follows. He took the money. He's cashing the checks. He knew what he was getting into. I'm not feeling bad for him in regards to "he was promised the Hawks would do X and Y when they signed him." The dude is cashing the checks. Don't cause the drama. You get payed to play a child's sport for christ's sake! Happy ! HAPPY !!! Happy by definition Happens. Unhappy, get over it. Take a Happy pill. You live in America. Are Rich. Play a sport for a living. Take another trip to New Orleans or spend a night in mechanicsville. Or grow up and make the best of your circumstance. Happy, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: But I see Joe Johnson sitting in a chair in front of his locker, like a jewel in a landfill, and I'm certain I haven't witnessed such pathos since watching Charlie Chaplin in "The Tramp." "We're just so inconsistent," the Hawks guard said before Wednesday's game against Milwaukee. "It's frustrating. We play the teams that we think we should beat, the teams that supposedly are not so good, and we tend to let our guard down. Then we get hit right in the face. My feelings on Joe Johnson are as follows. He took the money. He's cashing the checks. He knew what he was getting into. I'm not feeling bad for him in regards to "he was promised the Hawks would do X and Y when they signed him." The dude is cashing the checks. Don't cause the drama. You get payed to play a child's sport for christ's sake! Happy ! HAPPY !!! Happy by definition Happens. Unhappy, get over it. Take a Happy pill. You live in America. Are Rich. Play a sport for a living. Take another trip to New Orleans or spend a night in mechanicsville. Or grow up and make the best of your circumstance. Happy, wow. yeah i really want my best player to be happy with losing. I know Jordan was so pleasant to his teamates when they were losing (punching them, mocking them, degrading them, demanding trades publicly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 such nuthuggers you are........ How dare you criticize Joe Johnson!!!!! as night follows the day....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: yeah i really want my best player to be happy with losing. I know Jordan was so pleasant to his teamates when they were losing (punching them, mocking them, degrading them, demanding trades publicly). now you know I was baiting. Pitching hissies however is counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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