Swatguy Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Quote: Happy ! HAPPY !!! Happy by definition Happens. Unhappy, get over it. Take a Happy pill. You live in America. Are Rich. Play a sport for a living. Take another trip to New Orleans or spend a night in mechanicsville. Or grow up and make the best of your circumstance. Happy, wow. yeah i really want my best player to be happy with losing. I know Jordan was so pleasant to his teamates when they were losing (punching them, mocking them, degrading them, demanding trades publicly). Perhaps you mean "happy about losing". Happy is an emotion. I suggest he behaves as the Well paid professional he is. Get over the silly, female-ish emotions. He doesn't have to smile, he can continue the sour-puss, but dont cry about his Lot in life. Play the game and enjoy your life. Jordan ??? where does that fit in?? :mr-t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: BK just doesn't understand how to assemble a team. He has a bunch of nice pieces, each one fine on its own. But the pieces don't mesh, they don't fit right. 'Nuff said although those "nice pieces" were far more often than not the least nice piece available. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Since you didn't see my edit i will repost this. "I am still waiting for a list of all the players who are outperforming JJ who make less than he does (and aren't on their rookie contracts). It should be an extensive list if he is so overpaid. " to answer your challenge in the context you posted it in.... Chris Bosh Carmelo Anthony Chauncey Billups (arguable) Manu Ginobli (wash) Richard Jefferson Tony Parker Caron Butler Chris Kaman (arguable) Marcus Camby Steve Nash Carlos Boozer Lebron James You can keep the crickets Sugar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: ...I am not sure he is 100% healthy either. I don't think that thing on his calf is a fashion accessory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 the spontaneous grin on his face when Joe sticks his knee up his butt is what's got me worried! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 btw by "Hawksquawk standards" it's not really an argument. I just know typing "Joe Johnson" and "overrated jumpshooter" in the same paragraph is the equivalent of pushing Ex's ON button. we're just having some wholesome fun on a slow night. In fact I've got 12 minutes left..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Not trying to break in to you guys' arguement - but you have to admit that Yi guy is creative! I don't think I've ever seen somebody going for a reverse block before...lol He's waving to the 1 chinese guy in the audience who came out to see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Quote: Quote: Not trying to break in to you guys' arguement - but you have to admit that Yi guy is creative! I don't think I've ever seen somebody going for a reverse block before...lol He's waving to the 1 chinese guy in the audience who came out to see him. that's a good one too. I like my theory though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftwich Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote: Chris Bosh Carmelo Anthony Chauncey Billups (arguable) Manu Ginobli (wash) Richard Jefferson Tony Parker Caron Butler Chris Kaman (arguable) Marcus Camby Steve Nash Carlos Boozer Lebron James Carmelo makes slightly more. Richard Jefferson- no Caron Butler- no Chris Kaman- no Marcus Camby- no Many of the players you named are underpaid. What about Antawn Jamison, Steve Francis, and Chris Webber? They all make significantly more than JJ. Michael Finley makes 21.7 million this year. When a player is overpaid, you don't have to convince other fans of it. A fringe all star making 13 million this season is not a bad salary. Joe Johnson's the 29th highest player in the league. Sounds about right. The Hawks aren't doing him any favors by paying him his market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote: Quote: Since you didn't see my edit i will repost this. "I am still waiting for a list of all the players who are outperforming JJ who make less than he does (and aren't on their rookie contracts). It should be an extensive list if he is so overpaid. " to answer your challenge in the context you posted it in.... Chris Bosh Carmelo Anthony Chauncey Billups (arguable) Manu Ginobli (wash) Richard Jefferson Tony Parker Caron Butler Chris Kaman (arguable) Marcus Camby Steve Nash Carlos Boozer Lebron James You can keep the crickets Sugar obviously you didn't understand the question. I will repeat the part that you missed. make less than he does (and aren't on their rookie contracts). Try again. I know you were just trying to get me riled up. i didn't want to disappoint you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote: I suggest he behaves as the Well paid professional he is. Get over the silly, female-ish emotions. He doesn't have to smile, he can continue the sour-puss, but dont cry about his Lot in life. Where has he been crying about his lot in life? That is just nonsense that people here are making up. He has been playing hard (and a lot, 41 minutes per game) even though he doesn't have a lot of help. of course he is pissed about their inconsistency but that hasn't stopped him from playing to win. Quote: Jordan ??? where does that fit in?? I see people saying he should be more of a leader and more vocal, but when you look at guys that are like that it isn't always a pretty picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote: Quote: I suggest he behaves as the Well paid professional he is. Get over the silly, female-ish emotions. He doesn't have to smile, he can continue the sour-puss, but dont cry about his Lot in life. Where has he been crying about his lot in life? That is just nonsense that people here are making up. He has been playing hard (and a lot, 41 minutes per game) even though he doesn't have a lot of help. of course he is pissed about their inconsistency but that hasn't stopped him from playing to win. Quote: Jordan ??? where does that fit in?? I see people saying he should be more of a leader and more vocal, but when you look at guys that are like that it isn't always a pretty picture. I don't really mean to get on Joe. However, for team's sake, the locker room is the place to vent. Media attention is like pride, it comes before the fall. I would like the Hawks to adopt a bunker-type mentality, All Season. I want to see Shelden flex and Salim sling bombs. I'd like Joe to continue to snarl and now and then yell at someone (referee or/and opponent). I'd like JSmith to post low 5 times a quarter. I'd like Zaza to shoot his mid-range jumper at least three times a quarter. Other words do what they do best. Stay inside of their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote: ...I would like the Hawks to adopt a bunker-type mentality, All Season... About the only time you see that kind of thing is on a team with a strong coach who is well respected (IMO). This is a team with too many young guys looking for future contracts...and a coach that cannot command enough respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 I posted a week or so ago that JJ was angry and upset. Its going to get worse IMO the longer it goes without them bringing in talent. If however we start winning games then I think he will not have a real gripe. I honestly feel for Joe because there's no way he could have foreseen the Belkin fiasco and what its meant to the team but it is what it is. I personally wish he'd get onto these guys more during actual games than griping about it post game with reporters. Make an impact during the games, be a vocal leader Joe. You might be surprised at the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote: I posted a week or so ago that JJ was angry and upset. Its going to get worse IMO the longer it goes without them bringing in talent. I don't get this statement! This team has talent! In fact we are one of the few teams with 5 players with efficiency ratings over 14.5 even with our numerous injuries. So what talent are we suppose to bring in?? Gasol? His team is playing worse than ours! Ridnour? He not even leading his own team in assist and plus he is hurt. One of diesel dozen like Marbury or Randolph god no! or the many other duds that he has suggested over the years Chalie V., Frye or crap like that. Who??? Personally, i think that we will be just fine if Smith stops shooting and the roster get healthier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 I'd vote for Gasol if I had a say in the matter. I think exodus had an idea I wasn't too keen on at first but watching the games this year Haywood has really shown up for them. If we could make just one small move like picking him up and letting Horford go back to PF and getting some low post time at his natural position I think we could push for a .500 record this year (assuming no more significant injuries). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 But then you still have Woody; and the games will get tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 I have to admit I'm fascinated at what Woody No Goody would actually do in a real game if he had a real low post scorer (or made a real effort to give Horford chances) and a real point guard. Not just rookies here mind you but good NBA talent, not great maybe, but good. Would we actually see a better offensive game plan? Would Smoove actually be yelled off the floor if his shot selection becomes erratic at best? Would our defense be more than just weakside Smoove blocks? Inquiring minds want to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote: I'd vote for Gasol if I had a say in the matter. Gasol is a poor rebounder and defender. The Grizzlies give up the second most points in the league for a reason. And its not because they are a running team. Quote: I think exodus had an idea I wasn't too keen on at first but watching the games this year Haywood has really shown up for them. If we could make just one small move like picking him up and letting Horford go back to PF First of all How is Haywood an improvement over Horford? Secondly, If you move Horford to power forward, what do you do with Smoove and Shelden? Does Zaza play at all on your team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Quote: Would our defense be more than just weakside Smoove blocks? Not with Gasol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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