How obvious it that we need a point guard!?

[d2v16DKG]

Let's face it against the good teams, we have a long way to go and we can't get there without a point guard. We haven't had a good one since Mookey Balock!

[CrawDaddy]

Disagree. We just need a new coach that has an offense. Acie will be fine.

[Peoriabird]

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Let's face it against the good teams, we have a long way to go and we can't get there without a point guard. We haven't had a good one since Mookey Balock!

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Just another excuse to explain Joe Johnson bad play and our bad approach on offense. Another point guard would do the same as Law...Dribble past half court, give it to Joe Johnson to take the double team into the a corner to shoot and miss a shot!

[chillzatl]

Acie does fine in stretches, he's a rookie and he has his moments. Long term he'll be just fine. The best basketball we've played all season was with him running the point.

[vdunkndunk]

I think Acie is proving that he's a definite longterm keeper. But AJ and Lue suck. And Speedy doesn't even play and it looks like he's done. So if we want to be a legit playoff contender this season we need to find a way to get a starting caliber NBA PG in here.

[BHayley]

Acie is our man. He was penetrating like crazy tonight

[Johnnybravo4]

And Conley's stats aren't any better and he was supposed to be the pure pg

Anticipating the stat nerds coming in with a per argument.

[Atlantaholic]

Conley's stats are better though... not his per, but just his stats.

4.7 assists and a 5.2 assist/turnover

compared to

3.1 and a 1.7 ratio.

Still, I'm pretty happy with Law. But in all likelihood he won't become a consistent starting caliber PG for a couple of years... PG should still be considered a need for us, if only for a temporary basis.

[SmooveTheFuture]

Chris Paul and DeronWilliams would have taken the hawks to the playoffs already oh wait nevermind.

[BeeSwatter]

Think we could trade Smoove for either one of them???

[Nicholasp27]

if we had paul or deron, we wouldn't have Marvin, Shelden, Horford or Law

if Law is 80% of paul/deron, then isn't an 80% paul/deron + marvin + horford + shelden better than a 100% paul/deron?

also, deron wouldn't be doing as well in our 'system' as he does in sloan's...he'd still be GREAT and we'd love having him as our pg, but he wouldn't put up quite the numbers that he does

[Packfill]

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if we had paul or deron, we wouldn't have Marvin, Shelden, Horford or Law

if Law is 80% of paul/deron, then isn't an 80% paul/deron + marvin + horford + shelden better than a 100% paul/deron?

also, deron wouldn't be doing as well in our 'system' as he does in sloan's...he'd still be GREAT and we'd love having him as our pg, but he wouldn't put up quite the numbers that he does

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That is a pretty stupid way of looking at things. And beyond that, so what?

So they don't get Marvin - Paul/Williams are better and play a more important position anyway. So that means they don't get the 5 pick the next year - big deal, Sheldon stinks. Maybe they get the 10th pick and take someone like Rudy Gay, Ronnie Brewer or Hilton Armstrong or Paul Milsap in round two, all are better. Get to 2007 draft and you don't need Law so the only player you are missing is Horford, which is a loss but if you have Milsap you can take a flyer on a Sean Williams/Hawes type of guy.

In the end, you are left with a better basketball team.

[oken]

even with paul and deron...

with woodson as the coach, we aren't getting anywhere...

hmm... okay guys on offense...

just do whatever...

and on defense...

just hustle and play hard okay?

sounds like a pickup game to me...

[Nicholasp27]

doesn't matter that paul/deron are way better than marvin

in the end, it matters if they are so much better than law that it's worth losing marvin/horford/shelden over (vs what we woulda gotten otherwise)

if law can be near their level, then it all worked out better anyway

[TexasPete]

First, AJ and Lue no longer belong on NBA courts. Just having either of them in the game is a disgrace.

Second, Acie is going to be fine in the end but he could use a veteran like Andre Miller to watch for a year or two. We have thrown him into the deep end of the pool and it's a tough transition. Also, Acie is NOT going to be an elite player in the league. That isn't where this story goes.

We need a better PG situation NOW. Imagine that? The Hawks PG situation is still lousy. The ideal would be to trade or move AJ to inactive and play Lue as a 3rd PG only in emergencies. Get an Andre Miller for a two year rental and make sure Acie plays plenty of minutes backing up Miller and maybe even playing along side Miller to give JJ a blow.

But just starting Acie and playing Lue/AJ at all kills the team. BK is such a lousy GM, just never makes the moves that we need. There is ALWAYS something missing.

[AHF]

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doesn't matter that paul/deron are way better than marvin

in the end, it matters if they are so much better than law that it's worth losing marvin/horford/shelden over (vs what we woulda gotten otherwise)

if law can be near their level, then it all worked out better anyway

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What are you assuming we would have gotten in the draft had we taken Paul or Deron?

I see the moves being different along the lines of:

Marvin leads to:

Drafting Shelden Williams

Signing Speedy Claxton & Lo Wright

Drafting Horford & Law

Losing the 2008 first round pick

Paul leads to:

Drafting Ronnie Brewer or Thabo Sefolosha

Signing Chris Wilcox & Darrell Armstrong

Drafting Sean Williams or Jason Smith

Losing the 2007 first round pick and retaining 2008 pick

Deron leads to:

Drafting Shelden Williams

Signing Lo Wright but keeping most of cap room for 2007 since we need a legit big man or swingman

Drafting Julian Wright

Signing Darko Milicic

Losing the 2007 first round pick and retaining 2008 pick

[jerrywest]

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Paul leads to:

Drafting Ronnie Brewer or Thabo Sefolosha

Signing Chris Wilcox & Darrell Armstrong

Drafting Sean Williams or Jason Smith

Losing the 2007 first round pick and retaining 2008 pick

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Great post. Disagree on the above.

Shelden would have been available wherever Hawks picked last year.

No Wilcox. The good thing is no Claxton either. New Orleans would have paid Claxton $24 mil/4 years.

No Sean Williams either as Pacers would have had the 10th pick and Suns would have a 10+ pick.

We would have 2 picks next year. Deron would have taken out Horford and Acie and given us 2 picks next year. We were only a few wins below Pacers last year.

[thesheedera]

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Chris Paul and DeronWilliams would have taken the hawks to the playoffs already oh wait nevermind.

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Could you please remove that player from that other team from your sig? It's pretty ridiculous. Get over it. We f-ed up the draft.

[jerrywest]

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Chris Paul and DeronWilliams would have taken the hawks to the playoffs already oh wait nevermind.

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Could you please remove that player from that other team from your sig? It's pretty ridiculous. Get over it. We f-ed up the draft.

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SmooveTheFuture,

If you prefer to be consistent you could go the other way and replace Smoove's picture with Kevin Martin who was picked 8 places behind him and is currently #8 in scoring. He was #3 in scoring recently. We would have Paul and Martin instead of Marvin and Smoove and your userID would have been MartinTheFuture.