Game 35: Atlanta VS Milwaukee

[Plainview1981]

A loss to a team who is now 11 - 5 at home, doesn't bother me one bit. That's how the NBA goes

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Well, the Hawks got a win over the no count Chicago Bulls and beat Denver on a back to back. Other than that, the team has really struggled since that 5 game winning streak. With this road trip coming up, they'll be lucky if they're not 5 game under .500 before the all star break.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

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But if Marvin got as many shots as Durant does, he'd easily average 22 - 25 ppg right now.

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One thing that has been shown so far is that Marvin doesn't have what it takes to put up that many shots. You can fault KD for the number of shots he takes all you want, but the second best player on that team is 13PPGer Chris Wilcox. You think MW would be shooting 48% if he was on that team?

Moreover, MW's lack of 3pt range kind of bloats his FG% anyway.

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Marvin would get to the line probably 10 times a game, if he had the freedom to do what Durant does in Seattle. Marvin is probably in the top 5 in the league amongst non post players, in getting to the line. If he didn't catch and shoot, he'd go to the hole drawing fouls. More importantly, he'd have the majority of plays ran for him, so that he could get free enough to shoot his jumper.

It's funny. Back in December when Marvin really had it going, people on this board were complaining that he needed more plays and more shots. Now people want to trade him again . . LOL.

No, I don't think he'd be shooting 48%, but he'd be no lower than 44% FG.

Durant's potential is unlimited, but he has to become a much more stronger player in this league, to realize that potential.

The Hawks should've done with Marvin, what Seattle did with Durant. They drafted Kevin, and made sure that the guy who would play his spot ( Rashard Lewis ) was long gone.

Conversely, the Hawks should've immeadiately got rid of Harrington, to make move for Marvin ( and Chill for that matter ). Both players would've been further along in their development.

Believe it or not, Marvin is progressing at the same rate, as Josh Howard in his first 3 years in the league.

[DJlaysitup]

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...The Hawks should've done with Marvin, what Seattle did with Durant...

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Oh get serious NC - WHEN have you ever see the type of competitiveness in Marvin that is OBVIOUS in Durant.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

It doesn't matter DJ. Everybody knew that the minute we took Marvin, that Harrington was probably done. Harrington was a guy that we could've traded for a PG. Eventually we did ( Law ), but it could've been done 2 years earlier.

If we get rid of Harrington, either Marvin or Chill becomes the starter. But the Hawks kept Harrington, and brought Marvin along slow. This is what I'm talking about in relation to Durant. Seattle is probably right in throwing him right into the fire from the beginning.

That's what we should've done with Marvin. The production we're getting this year from him, could've been what he could do last year, had he started and got major PT as a rookie.

And actually, this is also the reason why Law should probably be starting right now. We all know that AJ isn't the long term answer, so why not give Acie more time. The reason why this doesn't happen, is because AJ is at least serviceable at the position. The Hawks don't live or die with AJ's play at the point.

If Woody still had another year on his contract, or if the Hawks suddendly extended his deal right now, he'd probably be more inclined to start Acie. But he's playing it safe, and going with the veteran. But you can see just in his play, that Law has more PG skill than AJ. It's just that AJ is more steady, and can mange the position better right now. Acie could rapidly pass AJ though, if given the minutes . . and the trust from the coach.

With Memphis losing, and with Ivaroni being a new coach, it's easy for them to just throw Conley Jr right in the fire, instead of playing the lame duck Damon Stoudamire.

[Plainview1981]

Well, I just think things would be alot different if the other teams goal was to stop him every night.

[AHF]

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The Hawks half court offense is such a joke.

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And has been throughout Woodson's regime. The lack of any real halfcourt system is my biggest gripe with the way this team has been developed.

[killa3312]

Horford's been one of the the best rookies in the league this year... just be grateful for that. And he WILL get better. There's a learning curve for all young players, and he's going through it right now. I still see enough potential in his offensive game (even with the bad shooting nights) that I believe he can be a good, quality post scorer in this league and he's a helluva good rebounder, above average defender, and excellent passer. Move him to PF (where everyone agrees he'd be at his best), give him a year or two to develop offensively, and he'll be a constant double double player.

He's not going to be a superstar, but he never had that potential. What he can be, though, is a very good post player that is an integral piece of a championship contending team.