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Atlanta Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +5.3 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and +0.8 apg.

Incoming Players

Andre Miller

6-2 PG from Utah

16.2 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 6.3 apg in 36.2 minutes

Samuel Dalembert

6-11 C from Seton Hall

11.6 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 33.0 minutes

Mike Miller

6-8 SG from Florida

16.2 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 4.0 apg in 37.6 minutes

Outgoing Players

Anthony Johnson

6-3 PG from Charleston

7.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.2 apg in 28.2 minutes

Shelden Williams

6-9 PF from Duke

3.0 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.2 minutes

Lorenzen Wright

6-11 C from Memphis

0.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.3 apg in 11.7 minutes

Tyronn Lue

6-0 PG from Nebraska

6.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.8 apg in 16.8 minutes

Zaza Pachulia

6-11 C / C from Georgia (Foreign)

5.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15.5 minutes

Marvin Williams

6-8 PF / SF from North Carolina

16.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 36.2 minutes

Speedy Claxton

5-11 PG from Hofstra

No games yet played in 2007/08

Philadelphia Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -9.3 ppg, -4.3 rpg, and +0.6 apg.

Incoming Players

Anthony Johnson

6-3 PG from Charleston

7.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 5.2 apg in 28.2 minutes

Lorenzen Wright

6-11 C from Memphis

0.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.3 apg in 11.7 minutes

Tyronn Lue

6-0 PG from Nebraska

6.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.8 apg in 16.8 minutes

Zaza Pachulia

6-11 C / C from Georgia (Foreign)

5.2 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15.5 minutes

Speedy Claxton

5-11 PG from Hofstra

No games yet played in 2007/08

Outgoing Players

Calvin Booth

6-11 C from Penn State

0.7 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 6.5 minutes

Andre Miller

6-2 PG from Utah

16.2 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 6.3 apg in 36.2 minutes

Samuel Dalembert

6-11 C from Seton Hall

11.6 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 33.0 minutes

Memphis Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +4.0 ppg, +3.2 rpg, and -1.4 apg.

Incoming Players

Shelden Williams

6-9 PF from Duke

3.0 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.2 minutes

Marvin Williams

6-8 PF / SF from North Carolina

16.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 36.2 minutes

Calvin Booth

6-11 C from Penn State

0.7 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 6.5 minutes

Outgoing Players

Mike Miller

6-8 SG from Florida

16.2 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 4.0 apg in 37.6 minutes

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Great deal for Memphis, alright for Atlanta, I'd easily do it.

I think that there are some benefits for Philly too.

It gets them out of their two large contracts. Allows for building to take place behind Lou and AI. They're going to get a great player out of the draft and they will have lots of money for Free agency.

For us, it exposes Smoove.

However, Miller, Johnson, Miller, Smoove, Dalembert...

If Smoove is targetted by Philly... There's Horf.

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I'd do it. Doubt the ASG ownership would though - they are cheap with a capital C.

And as long as the Thrashers are playing, they don't give a hoot about the Hawks - we'd likely be better off with the Belk-man. ufo.gifelefant.gif

P.S. - no logic involved in using the ufo and the pink elephant...I just thinks they're cool. nana.gif

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Wow, besides bringing in three good players, here's what this trade does for 2008:

1) you've just taken our salary for next year to about $69M (assuming you pay the Joshes a combined $18M)

2) the main back-up for both PF and C next year is Solomon Jones

3) only 11 positions have been filled, and you still need to fill at least 2 of those, which will probably put you over the luxury tax threshold at 13 players!

Not happening in our lifetime.

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Wow, besides bringing in three good players, here's what this trade does for 2008:

1) you've just taken our salary for next year to about $69M (assuming you pay the Joshes a combined $18M)

2) the main back-up for both PF and C next year is Solomon Jones

3) only 11 positions have been filled, and you still need to fill at least 2 of those, which will probably put you over the luxury tax threshold at 13 players!

Not happening in our lifetime.

1. Did you calculate in the loss of Shelden, Zaza's, and Speedy's salary for next year??

Didn't think so...

2. What about Horf?

3. That's what the NBADL is for.

What I have proposed is using the expiring contracts to get players who can contribute. Not to mention getting rid of a few contracts that we'd rather not pay like Shelden, Speedy, Zaza.

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If there is away to get a PG who has lead the league in assist and an all star level Center for expiring contracts and Marvin you are the man !

If you can talk Philly into that deal I think the ASG hires you as the new GM immediatly !

Before you make BK leave his office and hand over the keys to me..

I don't think Dalembert is Allstar quality... nor do I believe anybody else does...

AND

I don't think Miller will approach leading the league in Assist again.

However, I do think Philly would consider the move because it frees up so much cap space and the New GM there wants Barrack Obama kinda Change.

With this much money, they could go after Iguodala, Deng, and Diop...

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Hey Diesel, I did calculate the loss of those contracts in my number. Did you? This trade puts us in horrible cap position.

I did forget about Horf. My bad.

You can't have a team of NBDL players and plan on no injuries, unless you're Boston.

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Hey Diesel, I did calculate the loss of those contracts in my number. Did you? This trade puts us in horrible cap position.

I did forget about Horf. My bad.

You can't have a team of NBDL players and plan on no injuries, unless you're Boston.

Keeping the overall merits of Diesel's trade to the side, a trade that leaves the Hawks with a bench of Horford, Childress and Law makes the team deeper then it currently is. That would be a great bench for just about any team in the league.

Replacing the contributions of guys like Lue, Sheldon and Zaza is pretty easy, even for NBADL guys.

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Keeping the overall merits of Diesel's trade to the side, a trade that leaves the Hawks with a bench of Horford, Childress and Law makes the team deeper then it currently is. That would be a great bench for just about any team in the league.

Replacing the contributions of guys like Lue, Sheldon and Zaza is pretty easy, even for NBADL guys.

Either Chillz or Horford would start since we would be losing Marvin. (I guess Mike Miller could start at SF).

Its either:

Chillz at SF and Smoove at PF

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Smoove at SF and Horford at PF
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Keeping the overall merits of Diesel's trade to the side, a trade that leaves the Hawks with a bench of Horford, Childress and Law makes the team deeper then it currently is. That would be a great bench for just about any team in the league.

Replacing the contributions of guys like Lue, Sheldon and Zaza is pretty easy, even for NBADL guys.

Either Chillz or Horford would start since we would be losing Marvin. (I guess Mike Miller could start at SF).

Its either:

Chillz at SF and Smoove at PF

or

Smoove at SF and Horford at PF

A bench of Horford, Miller and Law would be fine too. Heck, a bench of Dalembert, Miller and Law would also be great. Point is, you have two big man options, a couple different options at forward and a back-up point.
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If you're trying to fill every need with one trade, here's an absolutely crazy one for you and there's not a need for a 3rd team........

You wanna' get rid of Speedy's contract?

You wanna' big man with a post game?

You wanna' guy who is a sharpshooter?

You wanna' win now?

Here goes....

Atlanta incoming:Damon Stoudamire, Mike Miller, and Pau Gasol

Atlanta Outgoing Players: Shelden Williams, Lorenzen Wright, Tyronn Lue, Zaza Pachulia, Marvin Williams, Speedy Claxton

Memphis moves some big contracts and takes back good, young talent as well as alot of expiring deals.......

AJ/Stoudamire/Law

JJ/West/Stoudamire

Miller/Chillz

Smoove/Solo

Gasol/Horford

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