Premium Member mrhonline Posted January 24, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=753339 Quote: We first got this info from BuckSkinsFan and now Woelfel has confirmed through his sources that the Bucks are trying to acquire Marvin Williams (we've also been told the Bucks have a strong interest in Acie Law). Now, this could end up going absolutely nowhere. I'm sure there are a number of players the Bucks would like to trade for and never will. But in this instance, I think the two teams have pieces the other could want. The Hawks are trying to find a PG and while they showed no interest in Mo last summer, perhaps their feelings about him have changed or maybe if they strike out trying to get someone like Miller or Bibby, they'd be willing to settle for Mo as a last resort. They have a glut of SF type players so even though Williams is playing well, they could afford to deal him and not suffer a huge drop-off in production. I'll continue to push for the following trade: Mo/Villanueva FOR Marvin/Claxton I think it's a deal that clearly benefits the Bucks given how Marvin would be a major upgrade at SF and it could help the Hawks if they believe Mo is a starting PG for their vastly improved team. The Bucks would suffer a downgrade at PG but I think the combination of Bell, Ivey and Sessions could get the team by until the draft, which has a number of strong PG prospects. Discuss. Europa's a fairly decent poster, but this post smacks of Bucks' homerism to me. If anything, it'd be Yi -for- Marvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Villanueva is pretty much junk isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHayley Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'll do this trade in a heartbeat. I'd trade Marvin and Claxton for Mo straight up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I am a big Marvin fan but I wouldn't hesitate to do this deal. Mo is really starting to turn into a very good starting PG and V puts up pretty decent numbers, has good size, and he can stretch the D out to the 3pt line. Mo is also an excellent 3pt shooter and it's becoming apparent that we absolutely have to find someone else beside JJ that can score from the 3pt line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Money Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'm sure the rumor is garbage, but there's no way I wouldn't take that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutz Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Yeah where do I sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted January 24, 2008 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Unless you're rebuilding, you're usually making a mistake when you trade the best player in the deal. The best player mentioned is Marvin Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Can't see BK parting with his first round pick. But if the owners are going to get more involved . . . . who knows. I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiatlhawksfan Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Are you guys retarded, who know how good Marvin will be in 3 year! Hell no to this deal, plus Mo Williams has a oretty big contract for the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 this looks like a trade that 3 years down the line people go "Hawks traded Marvin for who again?" If Mo was so great, Milwaukee would not be getting rid of him when points are at a premium and they just got rid of one in TJ Ford couple years ago. No thanks, I'd rather wait for Acie to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiatlhawksfan Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: this looks like a trade that 3 years down the line people go "Hawks traded Marvin for who again?" If Mo was so great, Milwaukee would not be getting rid of him when points are at a premium and they just got rid of one in TJ Ford couple years ago. No thanks, I'd rather wait for Acie to develop. Acie will never develop into a starting PG, he's a solid back-up at best. We need to trade for Sergio Rodriguez, he's a magician with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKadafi Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Trading Marvin away for overpay PG & useless SF is pointless. The Hawks desperately need a passing PG,SF & true Center but Mo & CV is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: Are you guys retarded, who know how good Marvin will be in 3 year! Hell no to this deal, plus Mo Williams has a pretty big contract for the next 5 years. Dude stop with that crap! For all we know Marvin could leave if this team stay on this path. I would do this trade in a heart beat. stop living for the future. We are living for now, and we know Mo is a very good PG who would set this team off. It would Mos Def set JJ off to a good step. Mo, JJ, and V would open the paint for J-Smoove to bring his game to a new level. think of it this way... we didn't draft Marvin, we got Mo instead lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hussamga Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'd rather package marvin for something bigger...plus CV isnt attractive to me, then again we wouldnt ask him to do much other than spot up on kick outs. But i think they overvalue CV, hes so streaky. Now childress or shelden package.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Why do you think the Bucks lose so much, despite having the backcourt of Mo and Redd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyphish1 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 We need to keep Marvin. Explore trade options with Childress. That's plain as day. Smoove and Marv can co-exist and both excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T21 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: Unless you're rebuilding, you're usually making a mistake when you trade the best player in the deal. The best player mentioned is Marvin Williams. That's right! We should only trade if we get something real in return... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: Why do you think the Bucks lose so much, despite having the backcourt of Mo and Redd? Because they do not have much Defense/Rebs coming out of their starting SF, PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 24, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=753339 Quote: We first got this info from BuckSkinsFan and now Woelfel has confirmed through his sources that the Bucks are trying to acquire Marvin Williams (we've also been told the Bucks have a strong interest in Acie Law). Now, this could end up going absolutely nowhere. I'm sure there are a number of players the Bucks would like to trade for and never will. But in this instance, I think the two teams have pieces the other could want. The Hawks are trying to find a PG and while they showed no interest in Mo last summer, perhaps their feelings about him have changed or maybe if they strike out trying to get someone like Miller or Bibby, they'd be willing to settle for Mo as a last resort. They have a glut of SF type players so even though Williams is playing well, they could afford to deal him and not suffer a huge drop-off in production. I'll continue to push for the following trade: Mo/Villanueva FOR Marvin/Claxton I think it's a deal that clearly benefits the Bucks given how Marvin would be a major upgrade at SF and it could help the Hawks if they believe Mo is a starting PG for their vastly improved team. The Bucks would suffer a downgrade at PG but I think the combination of Bell, Ivey and Sessions could get the team by until the draft, which has a number of strong PG prospects. Discuss. Europa's a fairly decent poster, but this post smacks of Bucks' homerism to me. If anything, it'd be Yi -for- Marvin. If there is a subsequent trade that gets rid of Lue, I'd do it. Getting out of Speedy's contract and getting a good PG is worth the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'd rather trade Chill. He's reached his ceiling more so than Marvin. And I'm afraid that Chas V would be another guy on the bench that would be in Woody's doghouse. Any trade that was made without getting rid of Woody would be putting a bandaide on a gushing wound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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