JackB1 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Josh Smith and Joe Johnson were a combined 13 for 40 from the field!!!!!!! Marvin was actually 7-16. Why is it when someone has the cold hand, we aren't smart enough to change the gameplan? How about running some screens/catch and shoots for Marvin? Some Post Ups for Horf? Last time JJ was in a slump, he got out of it by driving to the hoop over and over. Did he forget how well that worked last time? Again......it all points to the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalamchops Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 obviously you did not watch the game, most of the jumpers Marvin shot did not go in. He had really easy baskets from great passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeSwatter Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I agree with you, if you watched the game there was no way that Denver was going to let JJ get rolling in this game. He is doubled no matter where he touches the ball on the floor. We should run some post ups for Horford although his match up with Camby wasnt exactly in the Hawks favor. Quite frankly I thought it was one of the worst efforts the team has given all year. When Denver went on that run in the first qtr we absolutely quit playing defense, quit getting back. I thought Smoove played pretty well and looked like AJ was doing his best but looked like the rest of the team just hung their heads. I don't know. If you ask me that goes back to Woody. If we go winless on this trip then the Atlanta Spirit better pack Woody's bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 The main reason was just staggering stupidity. I can't even narrow it down to 1 or 2 players because they all seemed to make dumb mistakes. If had had actually written down all the blatantly dumb mistakes it would probably take 30 minutes to type them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 24, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: obviously you did not watch the game, most of the jumpers Marvin shot did not go in. He had really easy baskets from great passes Yep. Even Smoove threaded a great pass!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 24, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: I agree with you, if you watched the game there was no way that Denver was going to let JJ get rolling in this game. He is doubled no matter where he touches the ball on the floor. We should run some post ups for Horford although his match up with Camby wasnt exactly in the Hawks favor. Quite frankly I thought it was one of the worst efforts the team has given all year. When Denver went on that run in the first qtr we absolutely quit playing defense, quit getting back. I thought Smoove played pretty well and looked like AJ was doing his best but looked like the rest of the team just hung their heads. I don't know. If you ask me that goes back to Woody. If we go winless on this trip then the Atlanta Spirit better pack Woody's bags. Horf is not a post up PF. He's a face up PF.. and we did get Horf going in the third which led to our comeback. Was I the only one watching the game. You stat watchers need to stop... Anyway, when we run we win. Well, when teams play Zone they stop our running. Aside from Camby having a great game (blocking everything)... I think that our main problem was in the fact that we don't have enough established post scorers. Denver gave us the baseline shot all night. Everybody that hit the floor playing Center gave it a try. ONly Horf was able to hit the shot. Horf gets into foul trouble... our offense goes to pot. Mainly because Lue is running it and he's pounding and passing to Josh Smith. So we're living and dying by Smoove's BBIQ. And when he and Marvin was not throwing the ball away... He was shooting low percentage shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 During that hot run, Atlanta played some pretty sloppy defense. Then, on top of that, they couldn't score. Nothing worked on offense. No shots went in. Nothing. When the other team is scoring at will and your game on the other end is dead, bad things happen. Both got over their run, but the damage was done. This was the game. It was over. Sleepwalk on both ends of the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 24, 2008 Moderators Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: During that hot run, Atlanta played some pretty sloppy defense. Then, on top of that, they couldn't score. Nothing worked on offense. No shots went in. Nothing. And the shots Atlanta was missing were largely wide open jumpers that just clanked off the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 not to mention that each player tries hard in stretches....that all need to be playing hard at the same time... STOP WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DO SOMETHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: ...And the shots Atlanta was missing were largely wide open jumpers that just clanked off the rim. Yeah, I think that was the most frustrating part. The low shooting percentage (like 28% at the end of the first half) was not due to a "lock down" defensive effort by the Nuggets...nor could we blame it on tired legs from playing back-to-backs. We're just the "Gang that Can't Shoot Straight" sometimes. We get open shots and clank them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted January 24, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Two plays come to mind: Marvin non-looking the ball right into Iverson's hand next to our basket. AJ throwing a beautiful outlet pass to Childress who, despite having two steps on Najera, gets totally out-hustled.. That pretty much sums up how everyone played last night... It was tough to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 24, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: Two plays come to mind: Marvin non-looking the ball right into Iverson's hand next to our basket. AJ throwing a beautiful outlet pass to Childress who, despite having two steps on Najera, gets totally out-hustled.. That pretty much sums up how everyone played last night... It was tough to watch. On that AJ pass, Chillz was on the outside lane, Najera was on the inside. Najera was supposed to beat Chillz to a ball thrown inside. Still we botched more passes than you mentioned. The game got really sloppy for a time. It seems like we were always close when it got sloppy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murat Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 The reason why we suck is because we don't feed the hot hand. Why are Pistons so succesful without having a superstar? It's because they don't let one player take 20+ shots when he is strugling. Every night there is one player or two that have a great game and they end up winning a close one. If all of them play well than they win in a blowout. Look at the Pistons game boxscore from last night and look at ours. Prince took the most amount of shots(15), Rip and Billups each had 12. In our game Smith took 23 shots and Joe took 17. they made 13 of 40. Horford scored 14 points while taking only 8 shots. This is how i would do: Smoove no more than 12 attempts a game Joe needs to have 14-18 attempts a game Marvin needs to have 12-15 attempts a game Horford needs to have 10-13 attempts a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote: The reason why we suck is because we don't feed the hot hand... ...This is how i would do: Smoove no more than 12 attempts a game Joe needs to have 14-18 attempts a game Marvin needs to have 12-15 attempts a game Horford needs to have 10-13 attempts a game Well then you've just defeated your own primary arguement (which I agree with by the way)...we don't feed the hot hand. When we have a guy who is lighting it up, Woody needs to abandon the pre-set percentages of who gets what minutes and which guys get shots/plays called for them and simply ride the hot hand until it cools. A good example (in a small sense) was last night when AJ started out with 6 points early in the first only to be pulled when he realistically still had to be pretty fresh. A more extreme example would be the debacle when Smoove was so hot in the first half - only to see JJ firing away as usual and us losing the game in the second half. That's not to say JS would have stayed hot - but you never know unless you give it a try Woody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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