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Woody is the worst coach I have ever seen at this level and has therefore earned his F. Of course this is graded on the very tough NBA curve. If you are the very worst of your profession, you get an F.

He doesn't do a single thing well at the NBA level other than getting the team to not quit. And you could get a motivational speaker who's never watched a game in his life to do that.

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To give Woody an F means that people truly believe that we should have won 47 - 50 games this year

This is based on the extremely flawed assumption that a coach should be judged primarily by the win-loss record of his team. Those are the people who thought doc rivers sucked last year and suddenly became awesome this year. Nonsense. Many factors go into the w/l. Besides if you go by w/l (I don't), no coach should survive a 69 loss season.

Woody has exposed himself by making tons of mistakes (repeatedly) that not a single other nba head coach would make.

Name the nba head coaches that are worse than woody

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I can namea coach that had 2 all-star caliber players, plus a guy who could be an all-star, that lost more games than Woody this year.

I can name anothet guy who had a talented PG and a talented young C, and has managed to missue both of those guys.

Those 2 guys, and about 5 others, are worse than Woody.

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The people giving Woody an F are just haters.

Please define "hater". I don't hate the man. I don't even know him. I do hate the fact that he's our coach. I hate the fact that he can only muster 37 wins. I hate the fact that he has no "B" game plane. I hate the fact that his "A" game plan rarely works. I hate the fact that we are a young team who still manages to get very little "experience". I hate the fact that he thinks he is above working on anything himself. How can he expect his players to improve and work on things when he isn't even able to acknowledge some of his own flaws?

I didn't GIVE him an F because I'm a hater, he EARNED the F because he is the worst coach in the NBA as of this post.

So how many games should we have won this year?

I don't think 47 was an unreachable number. The way the East panned out and the fact that our injury bug moved on AND taking the Eastern Champs to 7 games I think 45+ was reachable. Please don't ask if that's the number I thought of at the beggining of the year because that has absolutly nothing to do with me grading Woody based on this year and what I saw. Plus I don't really remember what I might of guessed.

Why don't you tell me why we will win more than 37 next year with the same squad and same coaches? I know going by BK's "plan" that should put us around 42 wins. So, I'll buy that. Should be a fine year.

Wow.

Just wow.

We're now a team that were supposed to win 45+ games? That's living in fantasy land my friend. To do that, we'd either have to have been one of the best home teams in the league by winning 32+ home games ( with one of the weakest crowds in the league, until the playoffs started ) . . or . . we'd have to become a .500 team on the road. We weren't equipped to do neither of those things this year.

I started a thread at the beginning of the season entitled, "Can the Hawks win 25 home games". The 25 home win mark is usually the magic number for reaching the playoffs. I looked back over about an 8 - 10 year period. And around 80% - 85% of the teams that won 25 home games, got into the playoffs.

So my theory was if we could win 25 home games, and 16 road games, that those 41 wins should get us in the playoffs.

This year, we got those 25 home wins, but only 12 on the road.

And how convienent that NOW the 3 home wins vs the Celtics matter, when most discount them as just the Hawks playing way over their heads because of the crowd. Forget that boston was the best road team in the league up until that series with us.

Those wins matter, unless you're trying to make a case for Woody, then they don't matter.

The difference next year, if we keep this team intact, should be the matuation of our young players and at least a little stability AND TALENT at the point and center spot for the first time since we had Mookie and Deke.

The wild card for us may be Andersen, and how Woody integrates him into the rotation IF Andersen's game can make the transition to NBA level.

As for Woody and his coaching, he'll continue to do the things that he needs to do in order for us to win games:

- emphasizng defense and especially rebounding

- properly defining roles for our main rotation guys

- motivating the team at all times, even when things go bad

- continuing the offensive development of Josh Smith, something he gets absolutely no credit for, but should, because it was his idea to establish him as the 2nd offensive option and play him at the 4.

- hopefully becoming better with in-game adjustments, especially on offense. That has already become a little better with bibby at the helm ( minus his performance in the playoffs )

How many games did Portland win? They have a younger team then the Hawks.

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The people giving Woody an F are just haters.

Please define "hater". I don't hate the man. I don't even know him. I do hate the fact that he's our coach. I hate the fact that he can only muster 37 wins. I hate the fact that he has no "B" game plane. I hate the fact that his "A" game plan rarely works. I hate the fact that we are a young team who still manages to get very little "experience". I hate the fact that he thinks he is above working on anything himself. How can he expect his players to improve and work on things when he isn't even able to acknowledge some of his own flaws?

I didn't GIVE him an F because I'm a hater, he EARNED the F because he is the worst coach in the NBA as of this post.

So how many games should we have won this year?

I don't think 47 was an unreachable number. The way the East panned out and the fact that our injury bug moved on AND taking the Eastern Champs to 7 games I think 45+ was reachable. Please don't ask if that's the number I thought of at the beggining of the year because that has absolutly nothing to do with me grading Woody based on this year and what I saw. Plus I don't really remember what I might of guessed.

Why don't you tell me why we will win more than 37 next year with the same squad and same coaches? I know going by BK's "plan" that should put us around 42 wins. So, I'll buy that. Should be a fine year.

Wow.

Just wow.

We're now a team that were supposed to win 45+ games? That's living in fantasy land my friend. To do that, we'd either have to have been one of the best home teams in the league by winning 32+ home games ( with one of the weakest crowds in the league, until the playoffs started ) . . or . . we'd have to become a .500 team on the road. We weren't equipped to do neither of those things this year.

I started a thread at the beginning of the season entitled, "Can the Hawks win 25 home games". The 25 home win mark is usually the magic number for reaching the playoffs. I looked back over about an 8 - 10 year period. And around 80% - 85% of the teams that won 25 home games, got into the playoffs.

So my theory was if we could win 25 home games, and 16 road games, that those 41 wins should get us in the playoffs.

This year, we got those 25 home wins, but only 12 on the road.

And how convienent that NOW the 3 home wins vs the Celtics matter, when most discount them as just the Hawks playing way over their heads because of the crowd. Forget that boston was the best road team in the league up until that series with us.

Those wins matter, unless you're trying to make a case for Woody, then they don't matter.

The difference next year, if we keep this team intact, should be the matuation of our young players and at least a little stability AND TALENT at the point and center spot for the first time since we had Mookie and Deke.

The wild card for us may be Andersen, and how Woody integrates him into the rotation IF Andersen's game can make the transition to NBA level.

As for Woody and his coaching, he'll continue to do the things that he needs to do in order for us to win games:

- emphasizng defense and especially rebounding

- properly defining roles for our main rotation guys

- motivating the team at all times, even when things go bad

- continuing the offensive development of Josh Smith, something he gets absolutely no credit for, but should, because it was his idea to establish him as the 2nd offensive option and play him at the 4.

- hopefully becoming better with in-game adjustments, especially on offense. That has already become a little better with bibby at the helm ( minus his performance in the playoffs )

How many games did Portland win? They have a younger team then the Hawks.

More than we did, in a tougher conference. I believe they were right at .500.

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Mike Woodson isn't that bad. Or at least not as bad as you all make him out to be. Our young team has confidence and motivation now. No one would have even thought that we would have made it to the playoffs at the beginning of this season. Now all of a sudden we are a 40-50 game winning team to you people. If we would have beaten the Celtics in game 7 then Woody would be the Hero. I'm not saying that he is the best, and I agree that if we have the chance to get a better coach then we should take it. But he did take our team to the playoffs for the 1st time in 10 years, so he does deserve a little credit. We should just focus on whats best for the teams future.

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Separated at birth?

I gave the Woodster a solid F+ by the way. I feel he's earned it, and not due to won-loss, but to deficiencies in my opinion in player development, bench management, and game management skills.

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He cant get any A's but at the same team you cant give him any D's because he isnt that bad and there are worst coaches than Woodson. But after the playoffs, I would have to give him an C+ because he got the players to play their hearts out and to play good defense too. Well deserved Woody!

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Mike Woodson isn't that bad
. Or at least not as bad as you all make him out to be. Our young team has confidence and motivation now. No one would have even thought that we would have made it to the playoffs at the beginning of this season. Now all of a sudden we are a 40-50 game winning team to you people. If we would have beaten the Celtics in game 7 then Woody would be the Hero. I'm not saying that he is the best, and I agree that if we have the chance to get a better coach then we should take it. But he did take our team to the playoffs for the 1st time in 10 years, so he does deserve a little credit. We should just focus on whats best for the teams future.

yes he is.We made the playoffs despite him and won despite.We haven't won a game because of his coaching since he was hired.We've lost a bunch of games because of his coaching though.

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Over the span of his coaching tenure and looking at all the other records of coaches during that period, only temporary coaches had a worse record than him in 4 years. He was 106-222, pathetic. That is only a partial factor, the other factors that I took into account was substitution patterns, fluidity of offense, focus/effort on defense, respect of players towards him...

After factoring that all in and realizing that the NBA has 30 coaches and we need a roughly bell shaped curve to have an accurate distribution, I gave Woodson a D-. He actually deserves an F, but I put him at D- because I might have forgotten about a coach in the NBA that was actually worse than Woodson over his whole body of work.

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