Wurider05 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 He stated that he left because they didn't offer him enough money and that they told him to go out and find another deal. He stated that there wasn't any signs that they wanted to hurry up and get a deal done and that he got frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaos7 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: He stated that he left because they didn't offer him enough money and that they told him to go out and find another deal. He stated that there wasn't any signs that they wanted to hurry up and get a deal done and that he got frustrated. Where did you hear this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: He stated that he left because they didn't offer him enough money and that they told him to go out and find another deal. He stated that there wasn't any signs that they wanted to hurry up and get a deal done and that he got frustrated. lol i just heard it on 790,they told him to "go out and find a deal" and it backfired lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted July 23, 2008 Moderators Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 I'm mad he's gone but in the Hawks defense we offered him the best deal (most money) he could get in the nba. He doesn't have to like it but it was a good offer that represented his value to an nba franchise. The Hawks can't compete with another league that is operating under different rules for salaries/caps etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithSentinel Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Chill comes out looking greedy. ASG come out looking stingy. Hawks fans would rather not come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone034life Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: Chill comes out looking greedy. ASG come out looking stingy. Hawks fans would rather not come out. The fans always lose out and the full truth never comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosgrim Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: I'm mad he's gone but in the Hawks defense we offered him the best deal (most money) he could get in the nba. He doesn't have to like it but it was a good offer that represented his value to an nba franchise. The Hawks can't compete with another league that is operating under different rules for salaries/caps etc. You can compete by making the team something that people want to be a part of. Money goes far, but moving overseas is not an easy move (I've done it). You have to want to leave before the offer comes in. The ASG have produced a corporate culture that people do not want to be a part of. Look at the Braves as an example of guys willing to take a little less money to be a part of a great organization. Other examples can be found all over sports. No, the ASG couldn't compete for that ridiculous monetary offer made, but that was only the tipping point in a bad relationship between Childress and Hawks management. Childress wanted out because the Hawks were not something he wanted to be a part of. I do blame the ASG for creating such a bad place to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: Chill comes out looking greedy. ASG come out looking stingy. Hawks fans would rather not come out. i dont' see how Chill comes out looking greedy. he did what he was told and got an offer that was too good to pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Yeah, but moron fans keep showing up to games anyway. I;ll never pay a dime to see any of these guys. No matter if the Hawks make the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhay610 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 I love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: Quote: I'm mad he's gone but in the Hawks defense we offered him the best deal (most money) he could get in the nba. He doesn't have to like it but it was a good offer that represented his value to an nba franchise. The Hawks can't compete with another league that is operating under different rules for salaries/caps etc. You can compete by making the team something that people want to be a part of. Money goes far, but moving overseas is not an easy move (I've done it). You have to want to leave before the offer comes in. The ASG have produced a corporate culture that people do not want to be a part of. Look at the Braves as an example of guys willing to take a little less money to be a part of a great organization. Other examples can be found all over sports. No, the ASG couldn't compete for that ridiculous monetary offer made, but that was only the tipping point in a bad relationship between Childress and Hawks management. Childress wanted out because the Hawks were not something he wanted to be a part of. I do blame the ASG for creating such a bad place to work. I can't disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: I'm mad he's gone but in the Hawks defense we offered him the best deal (most money) he could get in the nba. He doesn't have to like it but it was a good offer that represented his value to an nba franchise. The Hawks can't compete with another league that is operating under different rules for salaries/caps etc. Exactly. There is no drama in this report. Chris Broussard reported Chilz was offered a little more than the mid level exception over five years. Contract would top out around 7 mill a year. That is a fair offer and Chilz turned it down. He got frustrated because the ASG did not up their offer; and because it was a fair offer, the ASG was confident no other NBA team would top it. Chilz wanted more and the only way he could get better than fair market value was to sign with Greece. If some other NBA team thought Chilz was worth more and could have helped their team, a GM would have worked out a SNT. Bottom line, Greece is the only team in the world that thinks Chilz is worth more than what the ASG was offering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 i think what the ASG should have done when Chill didn't like the offer was that instead of saying something so idiotic and abrasive as "go find another offer", they should have said they would have to think about it and then come back with another offer SLIGHTLY higher and explain that in order to compete that's all they could do... there is a WAY you talk and handle these things and saying stuff like that doesnt sound too good.. i bet BK is laughing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithSentinel Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 I am covering both sides of the arguement with that post. We have some fans on here defending ASG. We have other fans defending Chill. At the end Hawks fans are the ones that lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Money Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: He stated that he left because they didn't offer him enough money and that they told him to go out and find another deal. He stated that there wasn't any signs that they wanted to hurry up and get a deal done and that he got frustrated. Well, I guess he showed them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Quote: instead of saying something so idiotic and abrasive as "go find another offer" I HIGHLY doubt that they said it like that. You are reading that quote at least 3rd party and probably more. It's just like the telephone game where the words get twisted up just a bit as each person tells another. Think about it, why would they be so "abrasive" towards a player that they clearly wanted to keep? Childress just felt like he was worth more than he is in the NBA and slightly increasing our offer wouldn't have changed that fact. He is a smart kid so he knows that we need to try and save as much money as possible to keep the team together so I doubt mentioning that would have changed things either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTfan44 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 How can J Chill think he's worth more than 7 mill a year? He was already overpaid in his rookie contract, putting up pretty average numbers. Heck, I'd take James Posey at 24 Mill/4 over J Chill's proposed contract any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac13 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 The only truthful thing he can say is more money, more money and once again more money. Thats the beginning and end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 See, just as I posted the other day, GM's are overplaying their hand on restricted FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisX Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Bottom line, Greece is the only team in the world that thinks Chilz is worth more than what the ASG was offering! It takes two to work out a SNT. Why would he pass up on this offer when the Atl ownership has shown no motivation to do anything quickly. I am willing to bet he had other offers via SNT higher than "just above the MLE". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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