Boomer Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 We might have a hard time just making the playoffs again next year. As it stands now, I'd probably put these teams higher than us: Boston Detroit Washington Toronto Cleveland Orlando Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I believe Hawk's "veteran" front court are all age 22 or thereabouts. Smith, Williams and Horford should be better this season, simply because they have played together for a season. Who else has 3 great young starters up front? And, with playoff experience to go with being veteran players at age 22? With J Chill being gone, we will not be the same team that ended last season. Our bench will be different - Whether it's better over all, we'll just have to wait and see. But, ALL our starters are back for another try. We're not to that championship window. Not yet. But we can see it in our future. That's more than we could hope for a short time ago when we had 13 wins for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBoy Posted August 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Can we talk about a "winning record window" first? I don't know if we're allowed to do that. Oh, wait. This is a message board. Anyone can start a thread. It's really not that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayaPat420 Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 As much as I love Joe, Dirk can do what he does except shoot more accurately AND be 7 feet tall. The dude is one of the most efficient scorers in the history of the game and he's a good defensive rebounder, good passer, and has turned into a solid team defender. Uhh.... When did Dirk become a solid defender? And a good passer? Joe does both of these things better than Dirk. Nor can Dirk really take defenders off the dribble or use his 7 foot frame well. This being said, Dirk is a good player but I would take Joe over him anyday, MVP "award" or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 I don't know if we're allowed to do that. Oh, wait. This is a message board. Anyone can start a thread. It's really not that hard. But it is apparently hard to understand that the Hawks will never have a "championship window" so long as the ASG owns the team. We will not have a "winning record window" as long as Mike Woodson is the "coach". Understanding the dynamic of the Hawks is frustrating, but ... it's really not that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Uhh.... When did Dirk become a solid defender? And a good passer? Joe does both of these things better than Dirk. Nor can Dirk really take defenders off the dribble or use his 7 foot frame well. This being said, Dirk is a good player but I would take Joe over him anyday, MVP "award" or not. I've seen worse defenders considered better by some. I like what Dirk brings to the table. His game is in many ways more aesthetically pleasing than Joe's. I can only watch Joe go one on one so many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Hawk #21 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 We might have a hard time just making the playoffs again next year. As it stands now, I'd probably put these teams higher than us: Boston Detroit Washington Toronto Cleveland Orlando Philly I think we can be better than Washington,Toronto, and Orlando. Maybe even the Pistons because they're main guys are aging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Can we talk about a "winning record window" first? Right now we don't have a window of any kind. At best we have a peephole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 I think we can be better than Washington,Toronto, and Orlando. Maybe even the Pistons because they're main guys are aging. Better then Washington and Toronto is possible, though unlikely. Better then Orlando or Detroit is a very, very long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_pwns_newbs Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 If Marv and Smooth have grown out of their child shells and Bibby stays healthy. Al and Joe will do their thing. We have a legit shot. A move will had to be made to strengthen the bench though. (bye Zaza and Speedy?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwell Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 I've seen worse defenders considered better by some. I like what Dirk brings to the table. His game is in many ways more aesthetically pleasing than Joe's. I can only watch Joe go one on one so many times. I can watch that more than watching soft Dirk throw up jumpshots and avoid contact and miss important FT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBoy Posted August 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 But it is apparently hard to understand that the Hawks will never have a "championship window" so long as the ASG owns the team. We will not have a "winning record window" as long as Mike Woodson is the "coach". Understanding the dynamic of the Hawks is frustrating, but ... it's really not that hard. In the words of Val Kilmer playing Doc Holiday, "I'm your Huckleberry". I'm willing to bet, money going to Hawksquawk of course, that the Hawks "winning record window" starts this season. Oh and again, you can still start a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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