lawman Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories....NBA#STORY_11259 Seeking to add additional depth to its backcourt, the Atlanta Hawks General Manager Rick Sund announced today that the club has signed free agent guard Ronald “Flip” Murray to a contract. Per team policy, no other details were released. “By signing Flip, it provides us with another experienced player who has the ability to play multiple positions for us,” said Sund. “Because of his versatility, he will be a valuable asset for us as a reserve, and we look forward to the contributions he’ll bring this season.” A 6-3, 197-pound combo (point/shooting) guard, Murray is a six-year veteran who last played for the Indiana Pacers. He saw action in 23 games after he was signed a mid-season free agent (March 1) following his release from the Detroit Pistons, and he averaged 11.0 points and 3.5 assists (.425 FG%, .389 3FG%, .754 FT%) in those contests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncthompson11 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Seems like a waste of a spot for me. An undersized shooting guard whos not a great shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted August 13, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories....NBA#STORY_11259 Seeking to add additional depth to its backcourt, the Atlanta Hawks General Manager Rick Sund announced today that the club has signed free agent guard Ronald “Flip” Murray to a contract. Per team policy, no other details were released. “By signing Flip, it provides us with another experienced player who has the ability to play multiple positions for us,” said Sund. “Because of his versatility, he will be a valuable asset for us as a reserve, and we look forward to the contributions he’ll bring this season.” A 6-3, 197-pound combo (point/shooting) guard, Murray is a six-year veteran who last played for the Indiana Pacers. He saw action in 23 games after he was signed a mid-season free agent (March 1) following his release from the Detroit Pistons, and he averaged 11.0 points and 3.5 assists (.425 FG%, .389 3FG%, .754 FT%) in those contests. I remember a few years ago when Flip was a darn good shooter with guess who? Yes the Seattle Supersonics. You have to remember the Hawks are signing minimum contracts, so we are not going to get a mid level player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Man Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Seems like a waste of a spot for me. An undersized shooting guard whos not a great shooter. At least we didnt get Redick. THAT woulda been a wasted spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swish Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) This is actually pretty good news. Flip is not a bad player at all and adds depth. He should make the team over gardner. An aside he allows Evans to play at SF and he back up JJ. Law/Bibby/Speedy Flip/JJ Mo/Marv Zaza/Smoove Al/Morris Looking better... 11/3 is actually good and he and Evans should more than make up for Chill. click for Flip stats Edited August 13, 2008 by Swish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDirty Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I remember a few years ago when Flip was a darn good shooter with guess who? Yes the Seattle Supersonics. I believe that was a dream (unless you consider 36.1-42.5% fg and 22.4-29.3% 3pt darn good shooting). ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney1184 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I like the flip signing at first glance; combo guard that can handle the ball and create his own shot. I remember him handing out Lipton Specials left and right against us last year, so can't be all that bad. Don't see what would be that bad about signing Redick. With Salim all but gone, we're gonna need someone to extend the defense, and knock down some 3's. Nobody knows exactly what Redick can do, because he's never played.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris18 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Flip is a good scorer and gives us more depth off the bench. The one thing that this tells me is Sund and Woody don't think Speedy will be healthy enough to play this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimedog Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 For that little money this is a great move. We haven't had a guy who could create his own shot coming off the bench in ages. I remember the Indy game this season, Flip was just blowing by Joe. I also remember Josh blocking his dunk so hard he fell down a couple years ago when he was on the Pistons... but we don't have to remember him as "that guy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted August 13, 2008 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I believe that was a dream (unless you consider 36.1-42.5% fg and 22.4-29.3% 3pt darn good shooting). ;) http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/696/flip_murray/ 03-04 was a pretty good year. Yes he did shoot 41% from the floor and 29% from the arc. He had over 200 rebs and 200 assts, along with 81 steals while averaging 12.3 off the bench. I'll take that. He has a nice mid-range jumper that is a lost art today. He is not a team changer but a small part that can pay dividends in the back court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeacKillsaDevil Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) So, when do we unload Speedy? I do like that we have added two vets with playoff experience to our roster (Mo and Flip). Edited August 13, 2008 by DeacKillsaDevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I guess this means that JJ will be the back-up small forward given that they have now signed two veteran shooting guard reserves. This also potentially cuts into Law's minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I guess this means that JJ will be the back-up small forward given that they have now signed two veteran shooting guard reserves. This also potentially cuts into Law's minutes. I like it. Not very expensive and he has produced before... If it doesn't work, not a big loss. Could work as a 7th or 8th man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeacKillsaDevil Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I guess this means that JJ will be the back-up small forward given that they have now signed two veteran shooting guard reserves. This also potentially cuts into Law's minutes. He'll have to earn them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I like it. Not very expensive and he has produced before... If it doesn't work, not a big loss. Could work as a 7th or 8th man. If Hotlanta isn't trashing it.... then it must be a pretty decent signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 He'll have to earn them. Woody is the head coach, remember? Flip will be his new "Tyonne Lue" - a veteran undersized shooting guard who hits shots on occassion but otherwise is an absolute waste on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swish Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 If Hotlanta isn't trashing it.... then it must be a pretty decent signing I swear man you took the words right off my keyboard dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOL_Hawks Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Very good signing. Other than losing Chill and dragging out the Smith ordeal...Sund's done a pretty good job this offseason. He's bolstering the bench, which was definitely lacking last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I like this. He will eat some minutes, and the Hawks could have done worse for a low contract guy. I have seen Murray have some good games in the past coming off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) It's a good pick up. Gardner (if he can defend) can have Jeremy's uniform. Flip got Mario's. I do believe Joe will log minutes at the 3. In fact he may end his career as a 3. The more I think of it, he will bring swagger also. The guy has an edge. Edited August 13, 2008 by Swatguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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