HAWKS1986 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) Mo Williams has eaten the Hawks' lunch all year long--whether it is on the road or at home. Williams is a more reliable, consistent and aggressive than the inexperienced Daquan Cook and/or Mario Chalmers. And at times, the offense can go through Mo Williams when LeBron is resting... so the Cavs can extend leads or make comebacks with Mo Williams as the lead guard on the floor without LeBron. Mo Williams is the X-Factor. Daniel Gibson and Delonte West are capable guards, but if the Hawks can minimize Mo, then the Hawks have a chance of stealing one in Cleveland. Bibby played well at times against Miami, but against better guards who are quicker and can shoot just as well, Woodson has to carefully monitor Bibby's minutes especially early. Woodson can't be apprehensive in putting Mario or even Acie in the game. Defense has to become a priority, and Joe Johnson has to step up his game as well. The Hawks are not going to outscore the Cavs and their backcourt is collectively quicker than ours with the ability to make shots. Bibby becomes useless when he is turning the ball over and that is what happened in a loss on the road in Cleveland. Edited May 3, 2009 by HAWKS1986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted May 3, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Can Flip stay in front of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) Bibby wasnt exposed because he had Chalmers to guard--one of the best matchups Bibby and the Hawks could ask for in the playoffs. However, Mo Williams is no Chalmers, and we will see Bibby struggle quite a bit more to guard him. I hope Woodson is ready to throw in someone else on Williams if he starts going off. Edited May 3, 2009 by TheTruth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKS1986 Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Can Flip stay in front of him? It has to be a team effort, but Coach Woodson has to trust Mario and Acie with some minutes--EARLY... Flip is more athletic and quicker than Bibby, and is more of aggressive scorer (i.e. taking the ball to the basket unlike Bibby who is more content in taking jumpers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimsey Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 This team can't afford to hide Bibby and to double MO. We have problems down low with Big Z as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKS1986 Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Bibby wasnt exposed because he had Chalmers to guard--one of the best matchups Bibby and the Hawks could ask for in the playoffs. However, Mo Williams is no Chalmers, and we will see Bibby struggle quite a bit more to guard him. I hope Woodson is ready to throw in someone else on Williams if he starts going off. Woodson can't afford to let a WHOLE FIRST QUARTER go by with Bibby committing turnovers, playing bad defense and jacking up jumpers and on top of that-- putting no pressure on Mo Williams to play defense... Lebron is CONTENT to sit in the background and let Mo Williams and his other lieutenants win their matchups (Big Z vs. Al ) or (Joe Smith vs. Zaza), and Bron Bron would come in and close the deal... THE HAWKS CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN! Woodson can't be afraid of taking Bibby out of the game for non-performance or the game will be 40-16 the last time the Hawks played Cleveland.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolehawk2 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Woodson can't afford to let a WHOLE FIRST QUARTER go by with Bibby committing turnovers, playing bad defense and jacking up jumpers and on top of that-- putting no pressure on Mo Williams to play defense... Lebron is CONTENT to sit in the background and let Mo Williams and his other lieutenants win their matchups (Big Z vs. Al ) or (Joe Smith vs. Zaza), and Bron Bron would come in and close the deal... THE HAWKS CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN! Woodson can't be afraid of taking Bibby out of the game for non-performance or the game will be 40-16 the last time the Hawks played Cleveland.. Like I said all along....start Flip,, put him on Williams hide Bibby on Delonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKS1986 Posted May 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Like I said all along....start Flip,, put him on Williams hide Bibby on Delonte. I agree about hiding Bibby. Starting Flip isn't a bad idea. Flip is a veteran player who is not tentative and will drive the ball to the basket (unlike Bibby). All the games that Mo Williams has played in this season vs. the Hawks, he has averaged 20 or more points, and was in NO FOUL TROUBLE... The Hawks really need to TARGET MO WILLIAMS and force him to play defense for 48 minutes, not 8 minutes.. and make him earn his points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 give the ball to marvin and make the refs call something on lebron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawksBalla Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 give the ball to marvin and make the refs call something on lebron. We wont be able to "make" the refs call anything on LeBron. He gets the Jordan rules, just like Wade except to an even higher degree. If we so much as breathe on LeBron, we're getting a whistle. We dont match up that well against the Cavs. Factor in their dominance at homecourt and the refs and it could get ugly. We're going to need to play very well as a team and try to take out LeBron's teammates and force Lebron into a jump shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 When did Mo Williams become some lightning quick driving point guard? I thought he was more of a shooter, kinda like Bibby. I actually think that, although Mo Williams will be a big upgrade to the ones in Miami, it's better than say Bibby against a Rajon Rondo, Tony Parker, or Dewayne Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKS1986 Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 When did Mo Williams become some lightning quick driving point guard? I thought he was more of a shooter, kinda like Bibby. I actually think that, although Mo Williams will be a big upgrade to the ones in Miami, it's better than say Bibby against a Rajon Rondo, Tony Parker, or Dewayne Wade. Mo Williams will have a field day throughout the series if Bibby is the main one defending him. Williams has the ability to go anywhere on the floor, and create offense from the perimeter or set up his teammates. Mo averaging 20 points a game against the Hawks isn't a accident. He has been a clutch player either in Cleveland or in Atlanta... Mo might not have Rondo speed, but he can break down a defense consistently..and Coach Woodson can't allow Bibby to be abused in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattlanta Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 In the games that we had against Cleveland this year, Joe Johnson defended Mo Williams and Bibby would defend West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFAN4LF Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Mo Williams is overrated. Without Lebron, he's nothing, I guarantee that. What was Mo Williams doing in Milwaukee alongside Michael Redd again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I think that Mo isn't as much as a problem as we make him seem. What PG couldn't hit open jumpers when LeBron is creating them for you? LeBron plays like the PG for them most of their games and he's always been are main focus. I think are whole to will have to step up just to stand a chance against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwell Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Mo Williams is overrated. Without Lebron, he's nothing, I guarantee that. What was Mo Williams doing in Milwaukee alongside Michael Redd again? putting up 17 in 6 consecutive seasons. WIth Cleveland he scored a little more and had less assists. To act like Mo was just nothing in Milwaukee is absurd. He was very good as a Buck Edited May 5, 2009 by Cwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKS1986 Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Mo Williams is overrated. Without Lebron, he's nothing, I guarantee that. What was Mo Williams doing in Milwaukee alongside Michael Redd again? The reality of it is that Williams isn't in Milwaukee anymore, and Lebron has lifted his teammates to perform better, and Mo has responded... Mo was an All-star this year, and been a Hawks' killer this year knocking down shots and making impact plays for the Cavs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKS1986 Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 In the games that we had against Cleveland this year, Joe Johnson defended Mo Williams and Bibby would defend West. Joe is 6'8, and Mo is 6'1... Joe is solid defender, but someone else need to be defending Mo instead of Joe most of the time.. West is 6'3, but he is more of a challenge for Bibby... West is better than Chalmers..I would like to see the 'other' West --Mario guard Delonte and have Acie take a turn as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonegully Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Are we going over stuff we already know and have talked about in the chat. The Mo Williams problem is not hard to solve. You start Bibby and Joe. If Bibby is having a bad shooting night you sub him with Acie or Move JJ to SF have Acie or Mario checking Mo Williams. With Acie and Mario in they will play the 2 on the offensive end but check Mo Williams on the defensive end. Lets just hope D. West has a monster game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ATL15 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 mo makes his shots so we got to stay in front...on the fast breaks he runs and pops at the free throw line AND gets them every time!!! that needs to be stoped. and is Marvin even ready to play?? if no then who plays on lebron...i was thinking start zaza on big z AL at pf n then josh on lebron...MAYBE??? josh can chalange every shot because his taller...and if lebron drives josh will follow him and block him fron behind??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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