TeagueForMVP Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Could the Hawks sign D Wade, Bosh, Amare? preferably wade in 2010? If we let JJ go? Would we be contenders? Lineup if we got wade. Bibby Wade Williams Smith Horford Lineup if we got Bosh Bibby Crawford Smith (if he improves outside shooting) or Williams Horford Bosh Lineup if we got Amare Bibby Crawford Smith (if he improves outside shooting) or Williams Horford Amare which of these you think would be the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 4, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hawks will have no more than the MLE to offer unless they trade one of Smith, Marvin or Crawford for an expiring contract at the trade deadline. IOW, not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Could the Hawks sign D Wade, Bosh, Amare? preferably wade in 2010? If we let JJ go? Would we be contenders? Lineup if we got wade. Bibby Wade Williams Smith Horford Lineup if we got Bosh Bibby Crawford Smith (if he improves outside shooting) or Williams Horford Bosh Lineup if we got Amare Bibby Crawford Smith (if he improves outside shooting) or Williams Horford Amare which of these you think would be the best? I think a lineup of Bibby, Wade, Williams, Smith, and Horford is championship caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Our team as currently constructed will not be players in 2010 free agency. The plan for now is to retain our own free agents and grow internally, if that doesn't yield results then look forward to core members to be traded either this season or further upcoming seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Is there a chance JJ leaves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeagueForMVP Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 well im just saying since jj is a free agent next year and if we dont sign him we will have more money to spend and we could possibly get a bigger free agent than jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescout5 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) Is there a chance JJ leaves? Problem is the Hawks don't have one top 10 player on their whole team.JJ,Marivn,Smoove,Bibby,Horford none are top 10 players and when a player like Bosh or Wade are available you make room. I think were in for a let down with this current Hawks team. I don't see the great basketball IQ that you need i n core players to win championships. Wade,Bosh and a few others have it t herefore it would be dumb to just settle for what we have if a top player became available and the Hawks were content just keeping status quo. Edited August 4, 2009 by thescout5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 4, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 well im just saying since jj is a free agent next year and if we dont sign him we will have more money to spend and we could possibly get a bigger free agent than jj And I'm refuting that. It's not simply about how much money you, you also have to factor in cap space. The Hawks will not have cap space if they let JJ walk. They would have to let JJ walk AND trade one of Smith, Marvin, or Crawford. That'd be an awfully risky move and is extremely unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hawks will be under the luxury but at the cap if Joe leaves. Also people are forgetting about Horford. He's due an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico1 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 whether we get another allstar next year is going to depend on how well the hawks play this season. If they preform well i can see sund going into luxury tax to put together a championship team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 well im just saying since jj is a free agent next year and if we dont sign him we will have more money to spend and we could possibly get a bigger free agent than jj Its not that simple. There are cap rules. We can bring JJ back easier then other guys b/c we CAN go over the cap to resign our own FAs but CANNOT go over the cap to STEAL away other team's free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Its not that simple. There are cap rules. We can bring JJ back easier then other guys b/c we CAN go over the cap to resign our own FAs but CANNOT go over the cap to STEAL away other team's free agents. Thank you. Hope this clears up the situation for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted August 4, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well the Hawks orgainization is kinda funny, well really sad. Top teams like the Lakers, when they need a player go and get that player. When the Hawks need a player all you get is excuses about the cap and the luxury tax. Top organizations in sports and business find a way to exceed and stay on top. The Hawks organization and ownership want to be competitive to a point , put fans in the stands, and make money. You have to spend money to make money whether it is business or sports. The Hawks don't seem to have the commitment to go over the top. For example, this offseason the Hawks main objective besides signing their players , was to obtain a veteran big man. Where are they in that? They hyoe Syler who was passed over TWICE in the draft including them by all teams. The Hawks will not go deep into the playoffs until the commitment is made. I also think it is safe to say the Hawks will never be players for free agents with this ownership group. I hope I am proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 4, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Well the Hawks orgainization is kinda funny, well really sad. Top teams like the Lakers, when they need a player go and get that player. When the Hawks need a player all you get is excuses about the cap and the luxury tax. The Lakers don't have the cap room to sign Wade either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 If Smoove doesn't show any considerable growth in his overall game, it may be time to move him after this season, if you want to get a star player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted August 4, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 If Smoove doesn't show any considerable growth in his overall game, it may be time to move him after this season, if you want to get a star player. Be praying he shows growth, then. Because after this season he is still owed $37.2M over three years AND a trade kicker of over $5M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traceman Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 And I'm refuting that. It's not simply about how much money you, you also have to factor in cap space. The Hawks will not have cap space if they let JJ walk. They would have to let JJ walk AND trade one of Smith, Marvin, or Crawford. That'd be an awfully risky move and is extremely unlikely. One other alternative would be to try to work out a sign and trade sending JJ to MIA and Wade here or JJ to TOR and Bosh here. Would JJ and an unprotected 1st for Wade (or Bosh) and a future 2nd be enough to entice either team to do a deal? Under normal circumstances, I would say no way MIA or TOR does those deals but what if MIA's (or TOR's) alternative was to lose Wade (or Bosh) to NY (or elsewhere) for nothing? Of course JJ would have to agree to such a deal as well and I don't know why he would want to go to a rebuilding team rather than just re-up here but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 If Smoove doesn't show any considerable growth in his overall game, it may be time to move him after this season, if you want to get a star player. What's considerable growth in his game from almost 16ppg and more than 7 boards, in one year? Let alone energy, blocks, dunks, and out of your seat plays? What do you expect from a player that is just beginning his prime?...and putting up those numbers? One or two less bad three point attempts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakast Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I think a lineup of Bibby, Wade, Williams, Smith, and Horford is championship caliber. I'd rather have: PG - Bibby SG - Wade SF - Johnson PF - Smith C - Horford That starting 5 could put up a lot of points and be a solid defensive team...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I'd rather have: PG - Bibby SG - Wade SF - Johnson PF - Smith C - Horford That starting 5 could put up a lot of points and be a solid defensive team...... Who wouldn't? Geesh?? Why not just throw LeBron in at the one and Bosh at the four....it would be just as likely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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