benhillboy Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Someone remind me again, why are they here? I know good big men are few and far between but damn. It has to be better alternatives. It's got to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawksFan87 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 LOL, yesterday was the first game Collins and Morris actually got playing time.. I don't understand why we signed them either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Joe Smith is a much better big than Zaza. It befuddles me to see Za get so many minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Joe Smith is a much better big than Zaza. It befuddles me to see Za get so many minutes. Joe Smith has a better midrange jumper than Zaza . . and that's it. He's not a better rebounder, or a better defender, or tougher than Zaza . . oe hustles more. Remember, this is a guy that pretty much no one wanted, not even his own team. And Cleveland could definitely use him, you'd think. But he's being sold here like he would be a vital part of our bench. In a regular game with everyone healthy, he should never play more than 10 minutes a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted November 8, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Joe Smith has a better midrange jumper than Zaza . . and that's it. He's not a better rebounder, or a better defender, or tougher than Zaza . . oe hustles more. Remember, this is a guy that pretty much no one wanted, not even his own team. And Cleveland could definitely use him, you'd think. But he's being sold here like he would be a vital part of our bench. In a regular game with everyone healthy, he should never play more than 10 minutes a game. I agree but Joe should be getting a lot more pt. I think he can really contribute if Woody will put him in. He is very smart player and he is a good rebounder who should be getting at least 15 minutes a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Joe Smith can barely hold his ground on either side of the court. Since his rookie year he's been light as a feather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjGrizz Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Including Joe Smith in the same talks with Collins and Morris is comical imo. PLEASEEEEEEEEEE Save that garbage for the trash can! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Jason Collins has looked terrible in the few minutes we have seen him play this year. His jump shot is terrible and his feet seemed to be stuck in cement when trying to get a rebound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Joe Smith is 10 x better than Morris and Collins... I think he should get more minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) Joe Smith has a better midrange jumper than Zaza . . and that's it. He's not a better rebounder, or a better defender, or tougher than Zaza . . oe hustles more "He's not a better rebounder" Zaza: 2 Rebounds in 14 minutes Joe Smith: 3 Rebounds in 10 minutes "or a better defender" That is debatable but I believe he is. Zaza is one of the most overrated defenders on our team. He gives up and fouls way to easily. "or tougher than Zaza" Toughness and hustle can be very subjective though Joe is the only one giving extremely hard fouls (Batista-like) on our team so far this year. Also, Joe Smith is much less turnover-prone and knows his limits unlike Zaza. Edited November 8, 2009 by GameTime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeschmoe Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I agree but Joe should be getting a lot more pt. I think he can really contribute if Woody will put him in. He is very smart player and he is a good rebounder who should be getting at least 15 minutes a game. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tremor Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Zaza is one of the most overrated defenders on our team. He gives up and fouls way to easily. Zaza's defense is overrated in that sense that some think that it's better than atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillent Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Playoffs baby playoffs!! All the Elite( playoff teams especially in the east have good bigs to boast). It will be an advantage in the playoffs to have depth in the front court position that can work(foul/frustrate/defend) the other bigs at times when it really counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Someone remind me again, why are they here? I know good big men are few and far between but damn. It has to be better alternatives. It's got to be. Depth When we play the Cavs and Magic you will see why they are here. In a 7 game playoff series this depth will be needed. Do you already forget how injured we were in the playoffs last year and how our lack of depth hurt us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jy23 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Joe Smith has a better midrange jumper than Zaza . . and that's it. He's not a better rebounder, or a better defender, or tougher than Zaza . . oe hustles more. Remember, this is a guy that pretty much no one wanted, not even his own team. And Cleveland could definitely use him, you'd think. But he's being sold here like he would be a vital part of our bench. In a regular game with everyone healthy, he should never play more than 10 minutes a game. ???? I agree with u alot North but this one................not so much!!!! Joe grabs more boards in less minutes, Joe is a better defender, I really don't even see how this is questionable...zaza is less than average on the defensive end (still love him), toughness and hustle is subject to each persons opinion. I like the hard fouls that Joe brings when he's in the game and to me thats the sort of toughness that we need. Joe is a better player than zaza, what does zaza do better that Joe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tremor Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Joe's offensive rebs/mins stat (6.3 per 48 mins) is great . He shoud get more time so we can see if it's a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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