hawks21 Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Mike Bibby has trouble guarding quick guards and when Bibby's shot isn't falling, he is a real liability on the floor. I am not advocating Bibby be benched, but Jeff Teague has to get 16 to 18 minutes a night and it provides the Hawks a CHANGE OF PACE. Teague will make mistakes, just like Bibby. They both have liabilities. Bibby is clearly the more experienced playr, but second-year player Aaron Brooks and other younger quick guards generally have their way with Bibby. Teague is the future, but the future is also NOW. Bibby doesn't provide consistent mismatch problems, but Teague can. Teague drives to the basket and has the ability to challenge and break down defenses. Edited November 21, 2009 by hawks21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Bibby a QB on the court, Teague a better player but hasn't grasp the position yet. He struggled at PG in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member NineOhTheRino Posted November 21, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) I don't think Woody wants to screw around with team chemistry. Also remember that woody''s not in the teaching business during games. Right now it's produce or sit. Edited November 21, 2009 by NineOhTheRino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonegully Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Bibby a QB on the court, Teague a better player but hasn't grasp the position yet. He struggled at PG in college. Well he cant learn from sitting on the bench. I hope Price is helping him with his shot and some PG skills during practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkNJersey Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Bibby a QB on the court, Teague a better player but hasn't grasp the position yet. He struggled at PG in college. If Bibby is the QB on the court, then we must be running outta the Wildcat formation. Because he barely has the ball in his hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member NineOhTheRino Posted November 21, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Well he cant learn from sitting on the bench. I hope Price is helping him with his shot and some PG skills during practice. He has to take it upon himself to become better. First thing he can do is start making those layups. He's getting to the rim but he's really having a hard time finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawks21 Posted November 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Well he cant learn from sitting on the bench. I hope Price is helping him with his shot and some PG skills during practice. Jeff is better than Acie and even though he isn't a polished PG, he is still a playmaker who can make positive contributions on the floor. JT-0 can make his teammates better by driving to the basket and drawing the defense and setting up his teammates or getting an AND-1. Denver is allowing Ty Lawson play. Jonny Flynn is getting playing time in Minnesota. Brandon Jennings is ballin in Milwaukee as a 19 year old rookie. Jeff's skillset for 16-18 minutes a game should be seen more a positive than a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Jeff is better than Acie and even though he isn't a polished PG, he is still a playmaker who can make positive contributions on the floor. JT-0 can make his teammates better by driving to the basket and drawing the defense and setting up his teammates or getting an AND-1. Denver is allowing Ty Lawson play. Jonny Flynn is getting playing time in Minnesota. Brandon Jennings is ballin in Milwaukee as a 19 year old rookie. Jeff's skillset for 16-18 minutes a game should be seen more a positive than a negative. You cannot compare Jennings to Teague. Two completely different understanding of the position. Ty is playing and that's good for Ty. Teague will get PT, but Woody is trying to ride the wave. We are winning games. 7 in a row and we and complaining about a rookie PG who is unpolished at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 This is Aaron Brooks' 3rd year. He has proven a lot more than Teague has. At this point Bibby is a better player. I don't have a problem with Teague's minutes. Especially with us winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 The team is 11-2 best record in the East and we're resigned to complaining about the 20th something pick in the draft getting some PT at the beginning of his Rookie year? I don't know how much Teague played tonight but the Hawks won by 2 points on a last second put back. This game was hardly an opportunity for a coach to try and work a Rookie in for significant minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 I don't know how much Teague played tonight but the Hawks won by 2 points on a last second put back. This game was hardly an opportunity for a coach to try and work a Rookie in for significant minutes. Yep...got that right Teke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnShadyRefs Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 This is Aaron Brooks' 3rd year. He has proven a lot more than Teague has. At this point Bibby is a better player. I don't have a problem with Teague's minutes. Especially with us winning. But somebody had to give him a chance. He wasn't getting any mins under van gundy. After he got his feet wet under Rick Adelman, he has become a more stable productive force on the floor. Brendan Haywards was crediting part of his production this year on Flip providing him with consistent mins. He mentioned that when a player doesn't know how many mins he will get, he feels the need to press when given playing time to impress the coach enough to stay on the court. It affects a players psyche more than most think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 And who says that Teague is better than Acie? Acie was doing the same things Teague is doing . . . showing flashes that he could be a good distributing PG . . and missing a ton of lay-ups when he does get to the rim. So until Teague shows that he's no more than just more athletic than Acie, I'm not saying he's better than Acie. And Teague is nowhere near Aaron Brooks' level yet. Nowhere near. Here's a quote I saw in Friday's edition of USA Today. They had a nice little write up about the Hawks. This is what they have Woody saying: "People were on me in the past about using my bench . . . but . . . if I'm not comfortable with it, I'm going to go with who I can win with." AMEN Woody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member NineOhTheRino Posted November 21, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Acie was doing the same things Teague is doing . . . showing flashes that he could be a good distributing PG . . and missing a ton of lay-ups when he does get to the rim. preach It has to be a 2-way street. Teague has to earn his way onto the court by making those gimme shots. Edited November 21, 2009 by NineOhTheRino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biscuit Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 [ ]"People were on me in the past about using my bench . . . but . . . if I'm not comfortable with it, I'm going to go with who I can win with." So by the time playoffs get here, all of our players are done. JT-0 should get 12 minutes per night at least, cant grow if you dont play, and not garage minutes. if we have such a good bench, he should use them, joe got 45 minutes tonight, too much. woodson will never use his bench because....if the game is close u know who stays out there, and most games are close.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biscuit Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 preach It has to be a 2-way street. Teague has to earn is way onto the court by making those gimme shots. So the dunk he made was what? look at all the bad shots other players take............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawksBalla Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Looks like Woodson is well on his way to destroying Teague's confidence. We were getting killed all night by their speed at pg, but Woodson just cant help himself. He is married to a rotation of his five starters plus one super sub. Think there is any connection between JJ going 45 minutes and JJ going 6-18? Woodson doesnt play young pg's, and Woodson plays JJ into the ground. These things have happened during Woodson's entire tenure, and I am 0% surprised that they continue to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Teague looks lost out there. I don't blame Woody for not playing him in games like this. And I'm no Woodson supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 But somebody had to give him a chance. He wasn't getting any mins under van gundy. After he got his feet wet under Rick Adelman, he has become a more stable productive force on the floor. Brendan Haywards was crediting part of his production this year on Flip providing him with consistent mins. He mentioned that when a player doesn't know how many mins he will get, he feels the need to press when given playing time to impress the coach enough to stay on the court. It affects a players psyche more than most think. Haywood has earned his minutes, Teague hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member NineOhTheRino Posted November 21, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 preach It has to be a 2-way street. Teague has to earn is way onto the court by making those gimme shots. So the dunk he made was what? look at all the bad shots other players take............. He doesn't take bad shots but he has to learn to finish. And i know what you're thinking: "How will he ever learn to finish if he doesn't get the PT?" The player has to be self-motivated (I have no doubt that JT is) to take his game to a level worthy of taking mins from contributing player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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