hawks21 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Winning 45 games is nice, but losing badly in games like these at home vs. the top East teams is why Woodson is likely finished. Woodson has taken this team as far as it will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 For a team that's capable of playing so well, the Hawks are also extremely capable of looking like a lottery team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhawksfan Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Sounds like a coaching issue to me. Which coach went to the half and changed things up ? What was the result and what did the other coach (Woody) do when SVG took over ? :cant believe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefloydian Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I didn't look at the numbers, but I'm pretty sure the thing that changed after the half was the Magic's shooting %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawks21 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Orlando wiped away the disappointment of a one-point home loss to Miami on Wednesday night with its sixth win in seven games. "I said to them at halftime, 'The question is, does anybody want to play?'" Van Gundy said. "I think we were pouting. We were tired. It's easy to make an excuse, but at the end of the day they're going to give you a W or an L. Nobody cares how long they've been rested or anything else. Nobody cares." From AP article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawks21 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Sounds like a coaching issue to me. Which coach went to the half and changed things up ? What was the result and what did the other coach (Woody) do when SVG took over ? :cant believe: It's definitely a coaching issue. Woody doesn't trust rookies and rookies don't trust Woody. However, if Woody can't develop rookies this year (i.e. Teague) and get younger draft choices such as Horford and Marvin to act more like franchise players especially against Cleveland, Lakers, Orlando, San Antonio and Boston then Woody is GONE. Big Al and Marv are Woody's players--even though they are offensively challenged for different reasons--they have had plenty of time to develop their skills as NBA players. This is Woody's last year of making excuses about youth, experience and chemistry. A new voice is needed for this relatively young Hawks team. Edited November 27, 2009 by hawks21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 It's definitely a coaching issue. Woody doesn't trust rookies and rookies don't trust Woody. However, if Woody can't develop rookies this year (i.e. Teague) and get younger draft choices such as Horford and Marvin to act more like franchise players especially against Cleveland, Lakers, Orlando, San Antonio and Boston then Woody is GONE. Big Al and Marv are Woody's players--even though they are offensively challenged for different reasons--they have had plenty of time to develop their skills as NBA players. This is Woody's last year of making excuses about youth, experience and chemistry. A new voice is needed for this relatively young Hawks team. People can ask where our offense went in the second half? It went nowhere. It was the same offense as it was in the first. The difference? Guys were making the extra pass themselves, being unselfish, and looking out for one another in the first half. We were making shots because they were wide open. The second half, it didn't happen...we saw our lead start to shrink, started jacking up shots after panicking, and became selfish = 11 second half FG's. Nothing more than one on one. But it was nothing different from anything we've done all year. Against Championship level teams, like Orlando is and was last year, we'll continue to be exposed as the hacks we are on the offensive end. It's the bottom line. Having more talent offensively can only take you so far, and when you meet up with a team that matches your talent like last night, we will lose, and it won't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank966 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Sund made the right move to extending woodson. There are several of us who wanted him fired last yr. He doesnt seem to know how to orchestrate and offense. Under Woodson the Hawks never appear to be running plays except pick and rolls and back door feeds. I think this season is key for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) People can ask where our offense went in the second half? It went nowhere. It was the same offense as it was in the first. The difference? Guys were making the extra pass themselves, being unselfish, and looking out for one another in the first half. We were making shots because they were wide open. The second half, it didn't happen...we saw our lead start to shrink, started jacking up shots after panicking, and became selfish = 11 second half FG's. Nothing more than one on one. But it was nothing different from anything we've done all year. Against Championship level teams, like Orlando is and was last year, we'll continue to be exposed as the hacks we are on the offensive end. It's the bottom line. Having more talent offensively can only take you so far, and when you meet up with a team that matches your talent like last night, we will lose, and it won't change. We drove the ball in the 1st half also. In the 2nd half Orlando reduced us to semi open jumpers. They adjusted to us; we did not adjust to them. Edited November 28, 2009 by Buzzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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