ahlthe3rd Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 FIRST POST!! I've been looking at the players in the East and it looks like we have a chance to be well-represented at the all-star game. For the sake of argument let's say the East starters are: PG - Rondo SG - Wade SF - LBJ PF - KG C - D. Howard - Joe is our leading scorer so he obviously gets in - Smoove is having his best season on both ends and I can't name any Eastern Conf. PF's playing better than him right now - Crawford may be a stretch but with an injury or two he could sneak in (especially if we maintain one of the best records in the East) - Who is Horford's competition to back up Howard? Perkins and Noah? I think he gets the nod. Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 3, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Horford's top competition will be Bogut, IMO. I agree that both JJ and Smoove should be All-Stars. Crawford seems like a stretch to me, though. Whether Horford and/or Crawford have a shot will depend as much on our record as their play, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted December 3, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I think JJ and Smoove will be AS. Horford is a possibility but Lopez is probably his main competition as a backup center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member AtlHomer Posted December 3, 2009 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I think JJ and Smoove will be AS. Horford is a possibility but Lopez is probably his main competition as a backup center. Ditto to what you said, Lopez was the first person that came to my mind as competition for Horford. In fairness, the team having a bad season could hurt Lopez's chances.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crank Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Horford's top competition will be Bogut, IMO. I agree that both JJ and Smoove should be All-Stars. Crawford seems like a stretch to me, though. Whether Horford and/or Crawford have a shot will depend as much on our record as their play, IMO. Crawford actually has a good shot just looked at that the numbers this morning Dwade JJ Gordon Iggy are the 4 scoring guards that average more points than Crawford and all of them have been starting except Gordon who just started coming back off the bench last night Crawford is shooting a better percentage from the field than all of them he is 19th in the conference in scoring overall if you look at point guards Rondo Derrick rose Mo williams with Jennings and Arenas scoring 20 ppg but shooting 40% and both of their clubs are under .500 So it becomes a matter of us finishing at least second with Crawford maintaining his current pace . then its up to the coaches after the fan vote in the starters each coach is asked to pick 7 players from their particular conference . One for each spot and then two wildcard and these picks dont have to matchup with the ballot as far as positions go so they could put Horf in at forward if they wanted to as well. Joe should be a lock for the coaches first sg spot and if Crawford continues his current pace and we are the second seed then Crawford should get one of the wildcard spots. For Horf to be considered he has to get his boards back to double digits . Traditionally the top team in each conference can get 3 players if they have 3 that are playing well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 3, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I still think Crawford is very unlikely. Jennings is leading his team to a winning record despite them being expected to be at the bottom of the league. If he keeps his play up and has a few more exciting games, I expect he will make the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 JJ will get heavy consideration, as long as we're near the leaders and as long as he's putting up decent numbers. The BIG 3 coaches in the East, still gameplan the Hawks to stop JJ. So he'll get the nod on this team before anyone else. Depending on how well we play in January, JJ may even have a shot to be voted as a starter. But I highly doubt that. He won't get nearly enough votes from the ATL market, and the Boston market will probably flood the ballot with Rondo. Smoove is still shooting a very high FG percentage. That's the biggest key for him making the All-Star game. He probably needs to keep his PPG above 16, his blocks above 2.5, and his steals closer to 2 per game. Horford has little to no shot, in my opinion. He'd definitely have to raise his numbers closer to 15 pts - 11 rebs - 55% FG, to get consideration. Even then, there are a few guys to consider before placing him on the team. Remember, the coach picking the All-Star team isn't obligated to take a guy who plays center. He can easily pick another forward, especially if KG is in the starting lineup. Crawford has no shot, unless that dude really starts to turn it on, and is a big factor against the teams/coaches who could possibly name him as a reserve. There are just too many other good guards in this conference to choose from. LOL . . let me take that back. The only shot Crawford has, is if Woody is picking the reserves. Then he'll have a shot. My picks for the team so far: Starters: G - Wade G - Rondo F - Lebron F - KG C - Howard Reserves: G - JJ G - Brandon Jennings G - Arenas F - Bosh F - Pierce F - Danny Granger F - Josh Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 And God knows I HATE ARENAS. But with that team being back at full strength, and Washington starting to play at least .500 basketball, a coach who is naming an All-Star team, will probably look at him. That last spot will be either him, or Derrick Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVP23 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 On a NBA.com Poll they asked who was the most likey choice for All star. They had Al, Brook Lopez, Bogut, and someone else ( can't remember) and Al had over 50% of the vote...I think AL gets in. JJ is a lock even though he is playing like crap the past week, and really so is smoove...Idk about Craw.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 And God knows I HATE ARENAS. But with that team being back at full strength, and Washington starting to play at least .500 basketball, a coach who is naming an All-Star team, will probably look at him. That last spot will be either him, or Derrick Rose. Arenas is a consideration and I would not discount Jamison either. He has been a beast since coming back; and clearly a big reason behind the Wizards recent turn around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 No way Crawford will make it in. Horford and Smoove should go, and although I am not a fan of how he has played this year at all, Joe will go by default because there aren't many SGs better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawksFan87 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Joe and Smoove SHOULD make it, I don't think Al will though he has more competition at the C position. And the others have been more dominant.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruJerz Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I think the starting lineup for the East will be: PG-Rose(he will get the votes) SG-Wade SF-LeBron PF-Bosh(despite his bad game against Hawks..he's playing much better than KG or any PF in the east) C-Howard the bech should be: PG-Rondo SG-Joe Johnson SF-Pierce PF-KG C-Brook Lopez others: Granger Josh Smith/Shaq(he still might get in because he's Shaq) no room for Crawford or Horford but i can see Horford getting in before Crawford especially if a big man gets hurt but there are just too many good guards in the East: Vince Carter, Ray Allen, Harris, Arenas, Jennings, and even Mo Williams who was an all star last yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I definately think there is room for Horford. Remember last year there was only 1 center in the All-star game. I know the All-star game isnt for real but the East were destroyed because they couldnt match up to all the centers on the West squad after Dwight sat for the night. I think the coaches will try to make an effort to send at least one more center this for the East to atleast field 2 full squads position wise. I just looked at the stats and there isnt another center on a winning team in the East that compares to Horf and Howard across the board. Lopez has very good stats, but the Nets are atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye242424 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I definately think there is room for Horford. Remember last year there was only 1 center in the All-star game. I know the All-star game isnt for real but the East were destroyed because they couldnt match up to all the centers on the West squad after Dwight sat for the night. I think the coaches will try to make an effort to send at least one more center this for the East to atleast field 2 full squads position wise. I just looked at the stats and there isnt another center on a winning team in the East that compares to Horf and Howard across the board. Lopez has very good stats, but the Nets are atrocious. Can you really put a guy on an All-Star team, best 12 or 15 in their respected league when his own team is 0-18? I know the All-Star game is a long time away, and the Nets could make a turn around...but this isn't baseball. No player on the Nets should represent the East. Not at this time, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crank Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I think the starting lineup for the East will be: PG-Rose(he will get the votes) SG-Wade SF-LeBron PF-Bosh(despite his bad game against Hawks..he's playing much better than KG or any PF in the east) C-Howard the bech should be: PG-Rondo SG-Joe Johnson SF-Pierce PF-KG C-Brook Lopez others: Granger Josh Smith/Shaq(he still might get in because he's Shaq) no room for Crawford or Horford but i can see Horford getting in before Crawford especially if a big man gets hurt but there are just too many good guards in the East: Vince Carter, Ray Allen, Harris, Arenas, Jennings, and even Mo Williams who was an all star last yr Trujerz I would agree with you but once you actually put the numbers up side by side Crawford is playing just as well as anyone of those guards if not better and hes coming off the bench . The key being the teams record. VC- 19 ppg 2 apg and 5 rpg 40% fg #1 team in the east Ray- 16 ppg 3 apg and 2 rpg 47% fg #2 team in the East 35 mpg Harris- longest losing streak in league history unless they pull to within .500 by the all star game no way he gets one vote from a coach Arenas 20 ppg 6 apg 3 rpg 4 tpg 39% fg #9 team in the east 36 mpg Jennings 21 ppg 6 apg 3 rpg 42% fg #6 team in the east 35 mpg lost 5 of last 6 Mo williams 17 ppg 5 apg 3 rpg 45% fg Tied for #3 team in the east 36 mpg Jamal Crawford 17 ppg 3 apg 2 rpg 46%fg tied for #3 team in the east 30 mpg Ben Gordon 19 ppg 3 apg 2 rpg 44% fg tied for 12th in east 36mpg lost 8 of last 9 Crawford and Gordon are the only two coming who will be coming off the bench Rondo Wade PIERCE Lebron Dwight Bosh or Pierce could trade spots depending on fan voting Smoove JJ Rose KG I put one of the last two spots as being up for grabs between one of the top 4 teams in the conference Bos,Atl,Cle,Orl based on how well both they and there teams play I think they all have a legit shot at getting the next 30 days will tell the tale imo Mo williams Crawford VC Horf The last spot will be rewarded to someone from a losing team playing well or some 40% Arenas Gordon Granger Jennings Iggy or some nutz may try and push AI gonna be a interesting 6 weeks but i feel very good about our chances to land 3 guys especially if we have the #2 record in the east or better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruJerz Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Can you really put a guy on an All-Star team, best 12 or 15 in their respected league when his own team is 0-18? I know the All-Star game is a long time away, and the Nets could make a turn around...but this isn't baseball. No player on the Nets should represent the East. Not at this time, at least. I dont reward guys thats on winning teams..all star is an individual accomplishment..has nothing to do with you're record. If his team is playing bad because they are rebuilding and guys are hurt, i dont think he should suffer because of it. Unlike MVP, where you would have to look at the person's record to see how much he helped the team win, all star just means just that..you're a star in this league. With that said, Horford is probably just as good as Lopez so if he made it over him i wouldnt be at all surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruJerz Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Trujerz I would agree with you but once you actually put the numbers up side by side Crawford is playing just as well as anyone of those guards if not better and hes coming off the bench . The key being the teams record. VC- 19 ppg 2 apg and 5 rpg 40% fg #1 team in the east Ray- 16 ppg 3 apg and 2 rpg 47% fg #2 team in the East 35 mpg Harris- longest losing streak in league history unless they pull to within .500 by the all star game no way he gets one vote from a coach Arenas 20 ppg 6 apg 3 rpg 4 tpg 39% fg #9 team in the east 36 mpg Jennings 21 ppg 6 apg 3 rpg 42% fg #6 team in the east 35 mpg lost 5 of last 6 Mo williams 17 ppg 5 apg 3 rpg 45% fg Tied for #3 team in the east 36 mpg Jamal Crawford 17 ppg 3 apg 2 rpg 46%fg tied for #3 team in the east 30 mpg Ben Gordon 19 ppg 3 apg 2 rpg 44% fg tied for 12th in east 36mpg lost 8 of last 9 Crawford and Gordon are the only two coming who will be coming off the bench Rondo Wade PIERCE Lebron Dwight Bosh or Pierce could trade spots depending on fan voting Smoove JJ Rose KG I put one of the last two spots as being up for grabs between one of the top 4 teams in the conference Bos,Atl,Cle,Orl based on how well both they and there teams play I think they all have a legit shot at getting the next 30 days will tell the tale imo Mo williams Crawford VC Horf The last spot will be rewarded to someone from a losing team playing well or some 40% Arenas Gordon Granger Jennings Iggy or some nutz may try and push AI gonna be a interesting 6 weeks but i feel very good about our chances to land 3 guys especially if we have the #2 record in the east or better you're right..numbers dont lie in this league but the way the all star works is you have to get voted in and as much as Crawford tears apart other team's defenses, i just dont see him getting in over some of those big name players. I hope he does tho because at times he is our BEST player on some nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Rjght now, if I was picking I would take Josh over Joe. Joe has seemingly shot poorly in most of the games this year. Joe is NOT as valuable to this team as he was 2 seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 What about Bibby? I haven't looked at his stats but Bibby plays on a top EC team and althought the reward is invidual it really is based on reputation first and how well you team is doing 2nd. Devin Harris' team just set the league record for most Losses to start a season. Bibby may have a chance if the Hawks keep this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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