Gray Mule Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Salmons went wherever he wanted to go. He took whatever shot he wanted to take. He hit almost all his shots, especially in the 4th quarter. Question: Hawks have a defensive specialist. He sat on the bench while Salmons was going off like fireworks on the 4th of July. Why not put him out there against this red hot Buck? You mean, West didn't play because he can't score? Neither could any one else besides JJ as he completely dominated the ball. Sure, he hit a lot of shots. No one else got a chance. If no one else is going to shoot/score, West certainly wouldn't hurt the offensive. That can't be the reason. It would mess up the chemestry. Really? Well, we lost without him playing, so that proves nothing. One of the Bucks said in an interview after the game, "We just kept running the same play, over and over and Salmons took care of everything for us. We must have run that play fifteen straight times." Teams outscore Atlanta constantly in the fourth quarter. They adjust. We don't. We don't know what they are going to do but they don't have to guess about the Hawks.. Hawks never change. Ever wonder why? I do. :question: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uga2006 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 While West may have gave his all I still don't see him being able to stop Salmons. Salmons is turning into a really good player and looks like a viable number 1 option. His last 5 games he's averaged around 23 ppg. while basically shooting 50% and only missing 3 FT's in the last 5 games.So he's been pretty hot lately regardless of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plskeepbibby Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 While West may have gave his all I still don't see him being able to stop Salmons. Salmons is turning into a really good player and looks like a viable number 1 option. His last 5 games he's averaged around 23 ppg. while basically shooting 50% and only missing 3 FT's in the last 5 games.So he's been pretty hot lately regardless of the team. All grey mule is trying to say is that we will never know because woody won't even try and play him. When everythings going south giving west a try shouldnt be an almost never option. I do remember him getting physical with curry and throwing him completely off his game... Mario should definetely not be glued to the bench in these situations. Cause as it was last night it could not have gotten much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted March 24, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) We should have traded Marvin for Salmons before the deadline. Dude makes a million dollars less than Marvin and is twice the player. Imagine if he was our starting SF? We would be easily in third place right now and would be the hottest team in the league. I mean the Milwaukee GM must think he's a frigging genius. Edited March 24, 2010 by Atlantaholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted March 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 West = Defensive Specialist. That means, the guy can play defense. Above anything else he can do, defense is his top asset. Just think a minute. If you were to list all the things he can do, what would be on top of your list? Defense, I'll bet. Now, whoever was supposed to be covering Salmons couldn't stop him. In fact, they couldn't even slow him down. The Bucks have lost only two games since he joined the team from the Chicago Bulls. Salmons is averaging around 20 points this season. But, against Atlanta, his ave. is 31 points! Against the Hawks, Salmons looks as if the Bulls just traded away Michael Jordan's clone. Could West have stopped Salmons? Probably not. Could he slow him down? We would like to think so but we'll never know at the rate we're going. If west can't play defense, what is he doing on the roster? If he can play defense, and we all know that he can, why not use him when he's really needed. Seems to me it's like refusing to put the spare tire on when we have a flat. It's one of those little "donut" tires and it looks funny. I'll just sit out here for 3 or 4 hours until help comes. Duh! :write a letter: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 We should have traded Marvin for Salmons before the deadline. Dude makes a million dollars less than Marvin and is twice the player. Imagine if he was our starting SF? We would be easily in third place right now and would be the hottest team in the league. I mean the Milwaukee GM must think he's a frigging genius. 1) Salmons was absolute garbage with Chicago this season averaging stats worse than Marvin. 2) He was traded for expiring crap (Hak Warrick, Joe Alexander) to a wing depleted team because Chicago feared, with his crap performance, he would opt in to his player option in 2010 and prevent them from getting a max free agent. So no, trading for Salmons was not a likely if even thought of scenario. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uga2006 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 1) Salmons was absolute garbage with Chicago this season averaging stats worse than Marvin. 2) He was traded for expiring crap (Hak Warrick, Joe Alexander) to a wing depleted team because Chicago feared, with his crap performance, he would opt in to his player option in 2010 and prevent them from getting a max free agent. So no, trading for Salmons was not a likely if even thought of scenario. Yeah if Marvin was on the Bucks I think he would be doing some of the same. Kinda hard to get the ball enough when there are 4 guys ahead of you that get the ball more and average 15+ ppg.. Salmons wouldn't be doing what he's doing with the Bucks if he was on the Hawks. Also Marvin is 6 years younger so I'll stick with Marvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted March 25, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Yeah if Marvin was on the Bucks I think he would be doing some of the same. Kinda hard to get the ball enough when there are 4 guys ahead of you that get the ball more and average 15+ ppg.. Salmons wouldn't be doing what he's doing with the Bucks if he was on the Hawks. Also Marvin is 6 years younger so I'll stick with Marvin. Marvin shoots a low percentage and most of his shots come with little defensive attention. If you can't consistently nail down wide open jumpers it isn't likely that you will be able to make them when you are one of the top offensive options on a team and the opposing defense is focusing on stopping you. Ariza who is a better offensive player than Marvin has struggled mightily trying to be one of Houston's top offensive players this year because of this reason. If Marvin was some extremely efficient player than I would buy it, but Marvin isn't even able to produce an average level of efficiency while taking mostly uncontested shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted March 25, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 1) Salmons was absolute garbage with Chicago this season averaging stats worse than Marvin. 2) He was traded for expiring crap (Hak Warrick, Joe Alexander) to a wing depleted team because Chicago feared, with his crap performance, he would opt in to his player option in 2010 and prevent them from getting a max free agent. So no, trading for Salmons was not a likely if even thought of scenario. Well yeah, I wasn't seriously reproaching us for not doing it. I mean, who could have thought Salmons would be playing the way he's doing in Milwaukee after his abysmal start? I'm just saying that if we had that type of production at SF we would be seriously contending for a championship this season. It's just a shame that Marvin has been such a bust. I mean, I don't care that he isn't as bad as Darko Milicic the guy was supposed to be the overall most talented player in the draft (some had him going #1 overall to Milwaukee that year) and he has been a below average player for us. If you look at the difference between what Marvin is producing in his FIFTH season and what he was projected to do... It is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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