Poll: Do You Want Joe Back?

[tbhawksfan]

I voted no because I want a S&T. JJ's relationship with his teammates is lousy. Woody contributed heavily to this with his preposterous coaching, but the damage is done. We are still unbalanced with a bad PG situation and a need for a better C situation. The only way I'd be OK with JJ coming back is if we can't get good value in a S&T.

[jhay610]

I am worried that the fans may have run Joe out of town. The general base is so pissed off that Joe isn't Wade/Kobe/Lebron, but Joe never was in that class and it's not fair to hold him to that standard. Asking him to go 1-5 against a defense like the Magic's is just asking for trouble. Lebron couldn't even do that last year and is up against it right now against a decrepit but still resolute Boston defense.

Joe may not be a No.1 option but there are not many of those to go around in the league.

We need to grab a coach who gives s--- about offense, obviously. The Woodson/Mike Brown philosophy does not work well in the playoffs. We need a true PG -- maybe it's Teague, maybe not -- that can create for other players and doesn't expose us on defense. Woody is only just now figuring out what most of this Board saw last year -- Bibby is winding down and hurts us more than he helps.

I'll just reiterate what others have said -- you can't just throw 20/5/5 out the door. There really is no contingency plan that doesn't set us back a couple of years, and there are no guarantees with that anyway. If JJ walks, then Jamal is the only guy on the roster who can create a shot for himself or others without being spoonfed.

It took a long time to get to this point. It's worth it to try and keep this core together under the direction of a new coach before we take steps back. I don't think Joe is a selfish player at all -- he'll play off the ball if there is a legitimate facilitator PG out there getting him shots. Bibby was a good PG under Woody's philosophy but it's time to get a playmaker.

Give Woody his props for bringing us as far as he did, but the man has a lot of flaws as a coach and has obviously lost the some/all of the team. Let's take a look at what we can do with a new leader, and then re-evaluate this time next year. That may hamstring us with a less than ideal JJ contract in a couple of years but the alternative is uglier than that.

It will certainly be an interesting offseason.

Edited May 12, 2010 by jhay610

[HawkWeisErrr]

I voted no.

[Guest]

How do you replace Joe's numbers? Well you have to realize when you get rid of Joe that frees up more than 18 shots a game. Given that Joe averaged 1.17 points per shot and the league average was 1.23 points per shot, I am sure we will be able to manage. (a side note, Al Harrington averaged 1.17 pps his last year with us)

I don't like this poll question though. This isn't a simple yes or no type of question. Do I want him back, well depends how much is it going to cost me? Do I want him gone, well depends if we let him walk or get something in return via trade. And I realize that there is a conditional yes option, but if you are going to have one conditional option then you might as well have all of the likely conditional options as well.

[jhay610]

I don't like this poll question though. This isn't a simple yes or no type of question. Do I want him back, well depends how much is it going to cost me? Do I want him gone, well depends if we let him walk or get something in return via trade. And I realize that there is a conditional yes option, but if you are going to have one conditional option then you might as well have all of the likely conditional options as well.

I concur with all of this.

[WraithSentinel]

Yes, under a new coach.