PaceRam Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Can someone please logically explain the supposedly Hawks/Thunder Trade to me? If I am understanding this correctly the Hawks are trading their (or, the Nets?) 31st pick to the Thunder for cash considerations. If this is true is it because the Hawks ownership is just that cheap or could the Hawks actually have another plan (freeing up some money for another transaction?) in mind? I have to admit that tonight has been quite a roller coaser ride! At first I was not too thrilled when the Hawks selected James but then when I found out that the Hawks were actually going to get NOT ONLY Jordan but the Nets 31st pick as well (which I was really hoping the Hawks would be selecting either Alabi or Whiteside) I was very excited! But, then the news is that the Hawks are selling the pick (which was a player I don't know much about but at least he was a Center!) to the Thunder. I admit that I am not the smartest of NBA Fans but the Hawks moves tonight really has me confused! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Can someone please logically explain the supposedly Hawks/Thunder Trade to me? If I am understanding this correctly the Hawks are trading their (or, the Nets?) 31st pick to the Thunder for cash considerations. If this is true is it because the Hawks ownership is just that cheap or could the Hawks actually have another plan (freeing up some money for another transaction?) in mind? I have to admit that tonight has been quite a roller coaser ride! At first I was not too thrilled when the Hawks selected James but then when I found out that the Hawks were actually going to get NOT ONLY Jordan but the Nets 31st pick as well (which I was really hoping the Hawks would be selecting either Alabi or Whiteside) I was very excited! But, then the news is that the Hawks are selling the pick (which was a player I don't know much about but at least he was a Center!) to the Thunder. I admit that I am not the smartest of NBA Fans but the Hawks moves tonight really has me confused! i dont want that wussy 7 footer on our team id rather have cash. we got crawford and thats all i wanted out of this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 i dont want that wussy 7 footer on our team id rather have cash. we got crawford and thats all i wanted out of this draft So what you gonna do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 25, 2010 Moderators Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 No good explanation. We are following the Phoenix Suns model that cost them more money and resulted in less talent. Are you excited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaceRam Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 The Hawks sure took all the air out of my balloon! With the 31st pick they had their choice of Whiteside or Alabi and I was already counting tonight as a major victory for the Hawks! But, they sure managed to take that victory feeling away pretty hard and pretty quick! Jordan and Alabi or Whiteside would have been a pretty good haul for the Hawks tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 No good explanation. We are following the Phoenix Suns model that cost them more money and resulted in less talent. Are you excited? I feel like just a few days ago AHF just had a huge revelation about the ASG, but was very cautious as to whether the revelation was true or not. This draft just confirmed whatever AHF realized about the ASG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 25, 2010 Moderators Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I feel like just a few days ago AHF just had a huge revelation about the ASG, but was very cautious as to whether the revelation was true or not. This draft just confirmed whatever AHF realized about the ASG. Signing a coach for 2 years and selling the first pick in the second round means they don't believe in their hire (and aren't willing to trust him for more than 2 years) and don't believe in this team (not worth investing in a top second round pick). If they don't believe it is hard to make the case that the fans should believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 We had to sell the pick to pay for Jordan Crawfords plane fare to Atlanta. :saythat: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vext Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Can someone please logically explain the supposedly Hawks/Thunder Trade to me? If I am understanding this correctly the Hawks are trading their (or, the Nets?) 31st pick to the Thunder for cash considerations. If this is true is it because the Hawks ownership is just that cheap or could the Hawks actually have another plan (freeing up some money for another transaction?) in mind? I have to admit that tonight has been quite a roller coaser ride! At first I was not too thrilled when the Hawks selected James but then when I found out that the Hawks were actually going to get NOT ONLY Jordan but the Nets 31st pick as well (which I was really hoping the Hawks would be selecting either Alabi or Whiteside) I was very excited! But, then the news is that the Hawks are selling the pick (which was a player I don't know much about but at least he was a Center!) to the Thunder. I admit that I am not the smartest of NBA Fans but the Hawks moves tonight really has me confused! You summed it up for me as well. Brilliant move....and then we sell the pick. Ugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Only explanation that I can come up with is the rumor that we deal the rights to Chill for the 7 footer McGhee? If that is in place then it may make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSmith Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Glad we got Crawford. I would have liked a center at 31 but they might need the cash to pay for JJ. Maybe they have something else in mind like buying a pick in a bit for less.. who knows..... Would be nice to know how much they sold the pick for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 25, 2010 Moderators Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Only explanation that I can come up with is the rumor that we deal the rights to Chill for the 7 footer McGhee? If that is in place then it may make sense? It still doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Only explanation that I can come up with is the rumor that we deal the rights to Chill for the 7 footer McGhee? If that is in place then it may make sense? We can't trade the rights to Childress. the only way we can trade him is in a SNT dea. Considering how weak the Hawks bench is selling the 31st pick smells pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 25, 2010 Moderators Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 We can't trade the rights to Childress. the only way we can trade him is in a SNT dea. Considering how weak the Hawks bench is selling the 31st pick smells pretty bad. Yes it does. And the idea of landing McGee is a stretch as far as I am concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Signing a coach for 2 years and selling the first pick in the second round means they don't believe in their hire (and aren't willing to trust him for more than 2 years) and don't believe in this team (not worth investing in a top second round pick). If they don't believe it is hard to make the case that the fans should believe. But the ASG has invested so much in this team!! The fans need to support this team! The owners certainly have the right to be angry at our fans for not attending overpriced games. /sarcasm I am glad you have taken this stance. We definitely need a dose of respected, level-headed posters seeing how the ASG have been jackasses (for lack of a better word). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzachary Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I am glad you have taken this stance. We definitely need a dose of respected, level-headed posters seeing how the ASG have been jackasses (for lack of a better word). I disagree with this. We need a bunch of respected, white-hot angry posters. There's no reason to be level-headed here. Hoodwinked again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Crawford is cool, but our problem in the playoff had nothing to do with scoring from the guard position. And if we sign JJ we now have 3 SG and 1.5 pgs. We only have 1 true center under contract. (Zaza) Even if Whiteside and Alabi were reaches at least we reached at a position of need. It still wouldn't have precluded us from signing a vet. Hell if Whiteside didn't work out we could have cut him, they don't have guaranteed contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 i dont want that wussy 7 footer on our team id rather have cash. we got crawford and thats all i wanted out of this draft Yeah, but ... we didn't have to pick the German guy - there were other project centers to try like Alabi, Whitehead, and Jordan. It was the Tornado Suckers who wanted the German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 (edited) :thumbsdownsmileyanim: By moving down in the first round, Hawks saved $$$ on their pick - - Plus, they got who they wanted any way. With the savings here + the approximately $3 million they got for the next draft pick that they sold, they are now in position to pick up a veteran big man without costing them anything more. Pretty slick. With all the free agents out there plus all the swapping of players and the draft, some pretty good players may find themselves without a job (team) and be more than willing to sell their talents to Atlanta. Remember, this is not the end of things, just one small section of all the off season moves out there. Do we really want another player to develop or do we want a proven veteran? Lets wait until we see how this all works out before we dive off the deep end. GO DREAM!! 10-4 FIRST PLACE!! Edited June 25, 2010 by Gray Mule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtmike Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I couldn't believe it at first, either, but after thinking about it I can't imagine a 7'1" center that slips to #50 actually turning out to be that special. Even Zaza went before that and that's in one of the most talented draft classes ever. Of course you can never know for sure, but those centers available may never be more than the next RandMo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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