pimp Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Baseline/entry/view/73056/hawks_reportedly_have_backed_off_trying_to_add_shaq http://www.examiner.com/x-52130-NBA-Draft-Examiner~y2010m8d1-Shaquille-ONeal-exploring-international-basketball-markets-for-shot-at-one-last-big-payday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted August 1, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Baseline/entry/view/73056/hawks_reportedly_have_backed_off_trying_to_add_shaq http://www.examiner.com/x-52130-NBA-Draft-Examiner~y2010m8d1-Shaquille-ONeal-exploring-international-basketball-markets-for-shot-at-one-last-big-payday I actually believe that the Sporting news story has no credibility. It seems as though they read Shultz, put their finger in the air and made that story up with no foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKSFAN89 Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Who actually thought we had a chance at Shaq anyway? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted August 1, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 How is this a surprise? We signed two big mean for as cheap as possible under the CBA. The ASG won't spend the money to get Shaq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member niremetal Posted August 1, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 (edited) How is this a surprise? We signed two big mean for as cheap as possible under the CBA. The ASG won't spend the money to get Shaq. Unlike JJ (you know, the guy ASG gave the league's largest contract to), Shaq would bring in at least twice the money he'd cost. Something tells me money isn't the obstacle here, but you'll never let an opportunity to call ASG cheap go by. Edited August 1, 2010 by niremetal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted August 1, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Here's how it will play out. Shaq will sign with Cleveland. Cleveland will play Shaq and hold on to him until the trade Deadline. Then Cleveland will trade Shaq for something young and of Value to a PO team in need of his services. IF.... Shaq has a good year and goes to an Eastern team and helps them in the playoffs, it's SUND's Job. Especially if Jason Collins and Josh Powell turn in a big nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 How is this a surprise? We signed two big mean for as cheap as possible under the CBA. The ASG won't spend the money to get Shaq. Technically we could of signed our 31st pick or any undrafted rookie/dleaguer for cheaper even with the NBA footing part of the bill on the vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Here's how it will play out. Shaq will sign with Cleveland. Cleveland will play Shaq and hold on to him until the trade Deadline. Then Cleveland will trade Shaq for something young and of Value to a PO team in need of his services. IF.... Shaq has a good year and goes to an Eastern team and helps them in the playoffs, it's SUND's Job. Especially if Jason Collins and Josh Powell turn in a big nothing. I doubt Cleveland brings him back. They know first hand that they are better without him than with him. Bringing back Shaq only means that they will have a big road block to playing their best player, Anderson Varejao, more this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted August 2, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Who actually thought we had a chance at Shaq anyway? I just...can't put into words how this makes me feel. All I can say is that it is signature worthy, IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 both articles are B.S! the first article is a diffrent wording from a ajc article and the other talking about shaq going overseas! get real shaq wont go overseas, not even for more money. we are still in the runnning for shaq we are just waiting to see if his asking price goes down, which will in towards the end if he still isnt signed by anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Diesel that's a good idea from cleveland's standpoint. Adam dunn and the nats is a comparable situation but for significantly less cash. The nats signed him when noboduy else would and he was a hot trade commodity. They were idiots not to move him but that's neither here nor there. Signing shaq to a 2 year deal would be smart for cleveland because contending teams at the trade deadline will do things then that they wouldn't in july/august. And they're taking a risk shaq can perform without getting hurt the 1st half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWKSFAN89 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I just...can't put into words how this makes me feel. All I can say is that it is signature worthy, IMHO. Nice, i've made two sig quotes. :thumbsupsmileyanim: :blow out candles: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted August 2, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Unlike JJ (you know, the guy ASG gave the league's largest contract to), Shaq would bring in at least twice the money he'd cost. Something tells me money isn't the obstacle here, but you'll never let an opportunity to call ASG cheap go by. Did the ASG not sign two guys for the absolute minimum? Did the ASG once again not use the MLE? Did the ASG once again say it would spend into the luxury tax and yet again fail to do so? Actions speak louder than Gearon Jr.'s flapping mouth and the useless words that come out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Wonder if his agent might have drummed up the story. Think he's running out of options and if we sit tight and no one signs him we could have him at our price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I just...can't put into words how this makes me feel. All I can say is that it is signature worthy, IMHO. Oops, I meant to plus you. If I understand your response correctly you disagree with '89. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted August 2, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Here's how it will play out. Shaq will sign with Cleveland. Cleveland will play Shaq and hold on to him until the trade Deadline. Then Cleveland will trade Shaq for something young and of Value to a PO team in need of his services. IF.... Shaq has a good year and goes to an Eastern team and helps them in the playoffs, it's SUND's Job. Especially if Jason Collins and Josh Powell turn in a big nothing. Unfortunately Diesel it will not be Sund's job that it will affect. This ownership group is a joke. I doubt Cleveland brings him back. They know first hand that they are better without him than with him. Bringing back Shaq only means that they will have a big road block to playing their best player, Anderson Varejao, more this year. Varejao is a joke! His lack of ability will be sxposed this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) Unfortunately Diesel it will not be Sund's job that it will affect. This ownership group is a joke. How long is Sund's contract? By the way, I was talking to a Hawk marketing rep Saturday and he said two interesting things. He believes acquiring Shaq is looking better every day because of the lack of suitors. He said having 9 owners is the reason Shaq has not been signed. It seems guys inside see ownership as the problem as most believe. Interesting but obvious too. Edited August 2, 2010 by Swatguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mdizzle5 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Honestly I'm Kind of glad... I didn't really want Shaq on the team personally.... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member niremetal Posted August 2, 2010 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) Did the ASG not sign two guys for the absolute minimum? Did the ASG once again not use the MLE? Did the ASG once again say it would spend into the luxury tax and yet again fail to do so? Actions speak louder than Gearon Jr.'s flapping mouth and the useless words that come out of it. Did they not just sign JJ to the NBA's largest contract? Did they not overpay to keep Marvin, Zaza, and Bibby last summer? Did they not overpay to get Speedy before that? Did they not make two trades (Bibby and Crawford) that resulted in the team taking on more than $30M extra in salaries over the course of two seasons? Or are those actions inherently less important because they are inconvenient to your argument? You wanna call them stupid, fine. They have been stupid, or at least made some very stupid decisions. But I get tired of people screaming cheap one second and then conveniently shutting their eyes and mouth when the Hawks spend (too much) money. It's a sign of intellectual laziness or dishonesty, one or the other. Your selective memory is the only thing that's useless. Edited August 2, 2010 by niremetal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Especially if Jason Collins and Josh Powell turn in a big nothing. Is there really any "if's" about it? How long is Sund's contract? By the way, I was talking to a Hawk marketing rep Saturday and he said two interesting things. He believes acquiring Shaq is looking better every day because of the lack of suitors. He said having 9 owners is the reason Shaq has not been signed. It seems guys inside see ownership as the problem as most believe. Interesting but obvious too. These guys aren't much better than Belkin. They just tried to play the role of the good honest innocent owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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