Buzzard Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Its being reported as a done deal. NJ really landed a coup here. They have also reportedly traded Murphy to Golden State but I am having a hard time finding the players they got in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) I bet we could have traded Josh Smith for DWill since they are saying that Utah started trying to trade Deron over a month ago. Ok Hawks, why didnt we get in on that one? Simple answer. B/c they would rather have Harris and Favors then Smoove. Many here value Smoove much higher then rival team 's GMs do. Edited February 23, 2011 by coachx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporter Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 B/c Harris and Favors are a better combo then Smoove. These trade talks just help me realize how much we overvalue our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexmethylphenidate Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I'd give Joe Johnson/Teague/Marvin and 2 first round picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I'd give Joe Johnson/Teague/Marvin and 2 first round picks And that's still not as good as Harris/Favors/2 lottery picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted February 23, 2011 Moderators Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) I'm guessing Utah wouldn't take on Joe's salary. I would have included him in a deal for Deron if its an option. Oh well. We've had 8 straight winning months blah blah blah blah blah.... Bring me Milsap of Jefferson....or Corbin Edited February 23, 2011 by macdaddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 The East is going to be tough for the next couple of years now. We need to make a major move to become a contender. I wish we could make that kind of trade for Chris Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I'd give Joe Johnson/Teague/Marvin and 2 first round picks Contracts don't match. Come on ! That was really weak ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I think this will be a disaster for NJ but talk about a different world in terms of the hype surrounding Deron and Carmelo getting traded. What I don't understand is why you wouldn't ship out Deron to keep Jerry Sloan if you were only going to get rid of Deron a few weeks later. I think Utah wanted to make this deal and go into a semi rebuilding mode while staying competitive; not necessarily to keep Sloan. Mission accomplished IMO. You think Utah is irrelevant now but I don't see it that way. They still have a very talented front line in AK, Millsap, and Jefferson and just added Harris and Favors plus some great picks. As far as NJ goes, I think its a coup for them and no telling what Deron may get them later if they decide to make a deal. They have also reportedly traded Murphys big expiring to GS and may have gotten something useful for him as well. I am sure Deron is hating this and probably wishing he would have kept his big mouth shut about right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyI11 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Jamal Crawford+Josh Smith+2 Picks for Deron Williams. COUNTER THE TRADE Williams, Joe, Marvin, Al, Collins.. better than what we had.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member niremetal Posted February 23, 2011 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I think Utah wanted to make this deal and go into a semi rebuilding mode while staying competitive; not necessarily to keep Sloan. Mission accomplished IMO. You think Utah is irrelevant now but I don't see it that way. They still have a very talented front line in AK, Millsap, and Jefferson and just added Harris and Favors plus some great picks. As far as NJ goes, I think its a coup for them and no telling what Deron may get them later if they decide to make a deal. They have also reportedly traded Murphys big expiring to GS and may have gotten something useful for him as well. I am sure Deron is hating this and probably wishing he would have kept his big mouth shut about right now. The Nets got Brendan Wright for Murphy. Woo-hoo. Remember when people were predicting we'd draft him back in '07? The Nets have Lopez and D-Will. That seems like a good start, but the problem is they have traded away everything they need to surround them with the necessary talent. No draft picks, no young talent, no big expiring contracts. Just D-Will, Lopez, and Travis Outlaw (who got by far the most head-scratching contract of the offseason). Ironically, they’ll be a team with a top 5 PG and arguably a top 5 center, but they won’t be able to get anywhere because they are so weak everywhere else and don’t really have the capacity to improve. A friend of mine just suggested that maybe the Nets just really wanted to get a star after they missed out on Carmelo, and D-Will fits the bill. But I just don't see where they go from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 The East is going to be tough for the next couple of years now. We need to make a major move to become a contender. I wish we could make that kind of trade for Chris Paul. You're definitely right about that, it seems that the East is getting significantly stronger the last year or so and especially lately. We've got to find a way to improve our team or we're going to be an early 1st round disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Everyone is making moves...If the Hawks dont do something to improve our PG situations then we dont deserve to make it out of the first round...Infact we wont make it out of the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoBetta Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 This team is officially done In the future the Nets, Sixers, Wizards,Knicks will all bunny hop over the sorry hawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungsta Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Folks we dont know if d-will is committed to the nets. He can still opt out in 2012. So basically he will be a 1 season rental to the nets if he doesnt sign an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 So much for Devin Harris... http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6150419 Rick Sund, get on the DAMN phone MAN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Man Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Put the DWill kool-aid down. What has he done besides put up numbers? Nets got robbed on this deal. Harris is legit. I see the Jazz going further than the Nets. DWill has even less talent to work with. I'm not worried about the Nets. AAAnnd they gave up two 1st round picks? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted February 23, 2011 Moderators Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I think Utah wanted to make this deal and go into a semi rebuilding mode while staying competitive; not necessarily to keep Sloan. Mission accomplished IMO. You think Utah is irrelevant now but I don't see it that way. They still have a very talented front line in AK, Millsap, and Jefferson and just added Harris and Favors plus some great picks. What I am struggling with is why you wouldn't tell Sloan you are going to be dealing Deron if that was what was driving him out. I don't see how they are better letting him go. I don't think Utah is at all irrelevant in terms of short-term talent. Where I think they may plunge into irrelevance is that: (a) They are in one of the top 3 markets least attractive to African-American players; (b) I credit Sloan for their consistent winning ways over the last 20 years and now they let him leave; and (c ) They just lost a high profile star that made the team more attractive to free agents and teammates. In short, I think they are highly at risk of having their talent want to jump ship and being unable to attract players to come play in Utah if the team is losing more games and doesn't have a figurehead like Sloan or Deron anchoring the franchise. I guess we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superiorblogman Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Great deal. If I had posted Smoove, Teague, and 2 1st rd picks for Deron you Sund clones would have jumped down my throat. Edited February 23, 2011 by Dolfan23 Edited to remove personal attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I can't believe that we couldn't beat the Nets package. I have had it with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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