Premium Member Diesel Posted February 28, 2011 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Bibby to join the Heat. Murphy to Join the Heat or the Celts. Buyouts are unfair. We are too broke to sign a bought out player so we're penalized. Miami and Boston have money to burn so they can go get what they need. That's not fair to us. I hope these guys are slow and unable to contribute. Plus, the Celts might get Sheed back... What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member NineOhTheRino Posted February 28, 2011 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Bibby joining the Heat is great for the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted February 28, 2011 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Bibby joining the Heat is great for the Hawks. Not if he tells them how to beat us. I agree, Bibby isn't going to stop a chair from scoring, but he can tell a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted February 28, 2011 Admin Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I am not a fan of the whole buyout thing either. It basically lets solid veterans go ring chasing with a team of their choice. They can sign for the min because the other team that bought them out is paying their way. The Heat got their big 3 but the rest of their team is crap. This is when they start putting together their roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted February 28, 2011 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I am not a fan of the whole buyout thing either. It basically lets solid veterans go ring chasing with a team of their choice. They can sign for the min because the other team that bought them out is paying their way. The Heat got their big 3 but the rest of their team is crap. This is when they start putting together their roster I think in the new CBA, there should be a LT penalty automatically assessed to teams that pickup Bought out players. I would say 2 Million dollars over and above what the team has already paid for the player... Then you have this team that was built up of superstars, if they want a player like Bibby, they sign him to the min.. 2 Million, if they are already over the LT cap, then they have to pay 4 Million in LT. So Bibby would cost them 6 Million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superiorblogman Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Wish we could get Murphy or Butler or Rip if he gets bought out but owe well that's what happens when you try to keep up with the jonses when you are not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaze Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Now that our pg situation looks to be fixed I say our only need is a sf no disrespect to Marvin but he's not that player that could score if joe or any other of our shooters our having a bad night but I love his Defense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) Just what the Heat need, somebody who can bury 3's all day. Somebody who can bury clutch shots all day. I saw the end of the Knick/Heat game before our game came on and they were talking about all the 3 point games Miami lost because they didnt have a guy to make the last shot. Well if they get Bibby, problem solved. Edited February 28, 2011 by NJHAWK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotatl Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 OR the Hawks could offer Murphy some of their unused MLE money to trump the offer from the Heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I think in the new CBA, there should be a LT penalty automatically assessed to teams that pickup Bought out players. I would say 2 Million dollars over and above what the team has already paid for the player... Then you have this team that was built up of superstars, if they want a player like Bibby, they sign him to the min.. 2 Million, if they are already over the LT cap, then they have to pay 4 Million in LT. So Bibby would cost them 6 Million. I simply want a hard cap. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted February 28, 2011 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I agree that the new CBA needs to better handle this, but I disagree that, in reality, it will make a difference in the final outcome, at least this season. If those guys are getting serious minutes, like NineOh, I think that's probably a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted February 28, 2011 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Just what the Heat need, somebody who can bury 3's all day. Somebody who can bury clutch shots all day. I saw the end of the Knick/Heat game before our game came on and they were talking about all the 3 point games Miami lost because they didnt have a guy to make the last shot. Well if they get Bibby, problem solved. Heck they have Eddie House now that fills that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifelong Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 As long as they aren't violating the salary cap I don't see how we can complain. I guess we can complain about how our team is broke, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks6 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I agree, this buyout stuff is unfair. And I also agree with NJHAWK, although Bibby probably wore out his welcome in the ATL, he still has a couple of years being that shooter off of the bench. It seems like every playoffs there is the one wily veteran who many thought was done in the league making big shots for a team that is competing for the title. Bibby certainly fits that mold. How many minutes a game can Bibby give them? With his defensive capabilities (or lack thereof) he could go 10-15 minutes a night, with a few DNP's mixed in when he isn't needed. And I understand the Eddie House argument, but when you have a team like the Heat do, with all those superstars who can take it in the lane with as much prevalence as they do, you need more than one shooter on your roster. That is where Bibby comes in. If he does sign with the Heat, and they meet the Hawks in a playoff series, it will be up to LD to make sure to attack him early and often, and put him in one-on-one situations defensively for the amount of time he is out there.I agree, this buyout stuff is unfair. And I also agree with NJHAWK, although Bibby probably wore out his welcome in the ATL, he still has a couple of years being that shooter off of the bench. It seems like every playoffs there is the one wily veteran who many thought was done in the league making big shots for a team that is competing for the title. Bibby certainly fits that mold. How many minutes a game can Bibby give them? With his defensive capabilities (or lack thereof) he could go 10-15 minutes a night, with a few DNP's mixed in when he isn't needed. And I understand the Eddie House argument, but when you have a team like the Heat do, with all those superstars who can take it in the lane with as much prevalence as they do, you need more than one shooter on your roster. That is where Bibby comes in. If he does sign with the Heat, and they meet the Hawks in a playoff series, it will be up to LD to make sure to attack him early and often, and put him in one-on-one situations defensively for the amount of time he is out there. EDIT: And on a related note, "Mike Bibby" is the third highest trending topic on Twitter right now. I'm sure many of those people thought he was dead since he was playing in Atlanta, where many of the national analysts forget there is an NBA team. It goes to show, this is a great league, but its really run by just a few teams. If Bibby were to be rumored to be signing with, say Portland, do you think anyone would know or care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Just what the Heat need, somebody who can bury 3's all day. Somebody who can bury clutch shots all day. I saw the end of the Knick/Heat game before our game came on and they were talking about all the 3 point games Miami lost because they didnt have a guy to make the last shot. Well if they get Bibby, problem solved. But on the flip side of that is how many points they lose with Bibby on defense...we all know all about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Hawks chances will be determined by whether or not they can beat the Orlando Magic in the 1st round or if we can somehow sweep the Bulls and go on a tear to make a run at the 3rd seed. If we lose to the Heat it will be because of Wade, Bosh and LeBron, not Mike Bibby. He's not the difference now and certainly not the difference years from now. Honestly the more things are shaping up the more I like our chances 2-3 years from now. Boston will be past their prime, and I think Orlando took a step back with those trades they made. Hawks will have as good as hot as any team in the East to make the Finals especially if Teague can just develop into an average PG offensively or above average one defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Well..... http://twitter.com/#!/ajchawks/status/42393079461855232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokentree Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Not if he tells them how to beat us. I agree, Bibby isn't going to stop a chair from scoring, but he can tell a lot! "Go at their PG" isn't exactly going to work anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 OMG...i can't believe you guys are even discussing this. in order for Mike to score, Wade/James/Bosh has to pass him the ball. I'll take Mike shooting on a kick out over James getting and 1's all day long. Hawks chances will be determined by whether or not they can beat the Orlando Magic in the 1st round or if we can somehow sweep the Bulls and go on a tear to make a run at the 3rd seed. If we lose to the Heat it will be because of Wade, Bosh and LeBron, not Mike Bibby. He's not the difference now and certainly not the difference years from now. Honestly the more things are shaping up the more I like our chances 2-3 years from now. Boston will be past their prime, and I think Orlando took a step back with those trades they made. Hawks will have as good as hot as any team in the East to make the Finals especially if Teague can just develop into an average PG offensively or above average one defensively Hawks chances will be determined primarily by HEALTH. Our defense is light years better now. But take away 2 pieces (see last night) and that solid D quickly evaporates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 None of these brought out players are that good. Bibby really the only one that would be a need and in a match-up v. the Hawks, we would have the adv at that position by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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