dakast Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 What do you guys think? Are we one or two pieces away from something special or is it time to rethink this whole thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted March 7, 2011 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 What do you guys think? Are we one or two pieces away from something special or is it time to rethink this whole thing? We need to see this team under sound coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batfanjordanv Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think that we have something special going. We have two more puzzle pieces to fill before we are a championship contender. First, if Larry Drew doesn't take us at least as far into the playoffs as Mike Woodson did last year, we fire him. But if we fire him, we don't just promote Bob Bender. We hire somebody like Mike Brown or Larry Brown or how about we re-hire Mike Woodson. Then, we get a tall (at least 7ft), strong, and big center. I am hoping for Marc Gasol. My second choice is Shaq. But I would also be happy with people like Brad Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plskeepbibby Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Mike Brown sucks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Imagine what could've been had we gone after, hell even interviewed, Tom Thibodeaux... Typical ASG fluff; "We're going to search high & low for a qualified, top notch coach with a fresh perspective"... So we low-ball Avery Johnson, we interview a "never before Head Coach" in Mark Jackson, and ultimately we wind up with Larry "I've been here all along and I'll do it for peanuts" Drew... Other than Horford this whole team is expendable, but it's Rick "25 years as a GM, ZERO championships" Sund and the inept/broke/worthless/spineless/clueless ownership group so I don't expect much other than a Josh Powell here or an Etan Thomas there... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakast Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think that we have something special going. We have two more puzzle pieces to fill before we are a championship contender. First, if Larry Drew doesn't take us at least as far into the playoffs as Mike Woodson did last year, we fire him. But if we fire him, we don't just promote Bob Bender. We hire somebody like Mike Brown or Larry Brown or how about we re-hire Mike Woodson. Then, we get a tall (at least 7ft), strong, and big center. I am hoping for Marc Gasol. My second choice is Shaq. But I would also be happy with people like Brad Miller. ". . . how about we re-hire Mike Woodson" Are you joking or are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 We need to see this team under sound coaching. This team is finished dude. They have no heart. There is no coach out there that will make this a better team they way it currently is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crank Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Imagine what could've been had we gone after, hell even interviewed, Tom Thibodeaux... Typical ASG fluff; "We're going to search high & low for a qualified, top notch coach with a fresh perspective"... So we low-ball Avery Johnson, we interview a "never before Head Coach" in Mark Jackson, and ultimately we wind up with Larry "I've been here all along and I'll do it for peanuts" Drew... Other than Horford this whole team is expendable, but it's Rick "25 years as a GM, ZERO championships" Sund and the inept/broke/worthless/spineless/clueless ownership group so I don't expect much other than a Josh Powell here or an Etan Thomas there... Actually Horford is quite expendable too no one on this team should be safe . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Actually Horford is quite expendable too no one on this team should be safe . I agree. His cowardly "effort" tonight makes him just as unsafe as anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkxan1 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Mike Brown is Woodson-lite. He solves zero problems. Larry Brown failed in Charlotte for a reason. He harps on players way too much, and his style just doesn't work anymore. I feel like this team would respond to a young coach, but it would have to be the right one. Maybe a Frank Vogel type? He's done pretty well with an Indiana team with average talent. It would be interesting to see what he could do with a team like ATL. LD is a good assistant coach, and that's probably what he should be today. He was the coach that players could always go to and talk to (during the Woodson era) but he never necessarily commanded respect. That's a problem, especially when it comes to being a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakast Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 This team is finished dude. They have no heart. There is no coach out there that will make this a better team they way it currently is. I agree with your statement. This team plays as if they don't give a damn most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 All depends on if we win the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakast Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 All depends on if we win the second round. Right now I don't even see this team making it out of the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superiorblogman Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 No, we will see the same core next year. Joe, Josh, Al and Marvin are staying. Jamal will not re-sign they will try and move Kirk since he supposedly has such a great rep. Hopefully, they can rid themselves of Zaza's contract along with Kirk since he will be the expiring next year. Those are just my thoughts, but I would not be surprised if they keep Kirk and let him expire also. I am about ready for a real coach, a true contending team or for them to move this mess to Vegas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member NineOhTheRino Posted March 7, 2011 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 instead of bashing them lets pray for them. Remember guys....rocks hurt! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superiorblogman Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Pray for a basketball team? Not a good use of prayer IMO. I pray that they are all healthy but I will be saving my prayers for people in life altering or threatening situations. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted March 7, 2011 Moderators Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 They have a problem showing up for big games. Joe is really playing like crap and he's the one who should be leading this team. I like LD but he made a mistake with the three headed captain thing. Lenny put Smitty firmly in charge, Woody (who I did not like) at least put Joe firmly in charge. I saw LD's reasoning at the time because Joe doesn't like to lead but this has just giving him less responsibility when he should have more than everyone else. They can't continue with Joe/Jamal/Marv/Josh/Al. This group has shown they can't beat the better teams. Against 70% of the nba this group gives us 3 or 4 of the best players on the floor. Against the top teams of the nba this group give us zero. The best teams usually have 2 starters better than our best guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 They can't continue with Joe/Jamal/Marv/Josh/Al. This group has shown they can't beat the better teams. Against 70% of the nba this group gives us 3 or 4 of the best players on the floor. Against the top teams of the nba this group give us zero. The best teams usually have 2 starters better than our best guys. I agree man. BKs rebuilding plan is done and its over. Call it a limited success in that we got into the playoffs, but the missed picks could not be overcome. In a ideal world we will try and hold on to Horford and JJ, and build around those two. Do not know what kind of value we can get seeing as the ASG thinks jsmoove is equal to a all star PG, and they may be right, but I think they will try and move him. Marvin and Jamal have the least value now. Hinrichs expiring could get us something next season, but he might be part of a plan to keep a vet with playoff experience. This is considered a weak draft class, and that could help us if a team wants to move down or even out of the draft. There is no eastern conference buzz for this team anymore. The Knicks, Heat, and Bulls have taken what little national buzz we did have away. If we do not change something we will be struggling to make the playoffs next season. I expect Indy and Philly to continue to get better just as our young players did their first five seasons together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakast Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'm really starting to think this is the last year of "the core". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 We need to see this team under sound coaching. I really think Mike Woodson may have gotten the most were ever going to see out of this group. instead of bashing them lets pray for them. Remember guys....rocks hurt! Pray to who the basketball gods or the cat who went ballistic on some poor Japanese folks yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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