Moderators AHF Posted June 12, 2012 Moderators Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) The draft is officially on. Devon can make his pick as soon as he is ready, but the official clock starts at 7:00 a.m. EST on Thursday June 14, 2012. (People can pick as soon as the person in front of them goes, but if Hustler isn't available until Thursday, for example, then we won't skip that pick.) Please review the rules and guidelines listed below and remember that if you anticipate having trouble making timely picks that you can bring on another poster as a co-GM to help. Round 1 1 - Devon - Kevin Durant 2 - Supporter - Lebron James 3 - Hustler 4 - Capstone21 5 - AHF 6 - sultanofatl 7 - Diesel 8 - PSSSHHHRRR87 9 - Dolfan 10 - Mutombolievable 11 - Alejandro09 12 - Buzzard 13 - jy23 14 - Nicholasp27 15 - LethalWeapon3 16 - coachx Round 2 17 - coachx 18 - LethalWeapon3 19 - Nicholasp27 20 - jy23 21 - Buzzard 22 - Alejandro09 23 - Mutombolievable 24 - Dolfan 25 - PSSSHHHRRR87 26 - Diesel 27 - sultanofatl 28 - AHF 29 - Capstone21 30 - Hustler 31 - Supporter 32 – Devon Here are the rules 1. Draft Format: This is a fourteen round snake draft, so Draft order goes 1,2,3,4,...14, 15, 16, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11,...3, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3,.. 2. Eligibility: You can Draft anybody that is currently in the league or is or has been draft eligible. We have eliminated the requirement that they must have played at least one NBA game prior to today, so players like Ricky Rubio and Kyrie Irving would have been eligible under this format in last year’s draft. Players eligible for the 2012 draft can be drafted as can foreign players drafted in the past or draft eligible in the past who haven't played in the NBA. Players like Shabazz Muhammed are still not eligible for this draft because they are not and have never been draft eligible. 3. Making Your Picks/Discussion and Debate: When it's your turn to draft, you just post (in bold) the player's name and you should do a writeup on why you chose that player. If you don't have time for a writeup, you can just make your selection to keep Draft moving and then post writeup later when you have time. Your writeup should explain why the player rules and how well they fit with your squad and why your team is now going to dominate the '10s. You should always pm the next person in the list after you pick. Example: AHF Team Pick: Shaquille O’Neal I am taking Shaq to bolster my rebounding and interior defense. While he is getting older, he will be playing limited minutes on my roster behind Dwight Howard and will still be able to dominate smaller guys playing center like Al Horford in the paint. Health is a concern but in round 11 there isn’t a lot of depth on the interior so this pick makes all the sense in the world. Discussion of picks is encouraged but do not discuss undrafted players to avoid influencing future picks. So, for example, if Wilt is picked #1 then it is a breach of draft etiquette to start discussion other available centers or how MJ is still available, etc. If you are explaining why you picked Wilt, you need to just generally address other available players or use the word "Player" as a substitute for someone specific. Example: I took Wilt because he was so dominant, and, while Wilt would be dominant in any era, I don't think that Player would hold up as well when guarded by other elite picks. (Not that MJ or Wilt would hold up very well in 2012). 4. Time Frame/Finances: You get the player as they are and their projected potential/output for their projected career from here on out. So if you Draft Tracy McGrady, you are getting a player often injured, on the downside of his career, with only a year or so left. If you Draft John Wall, you get a young player who may project to play for 10+ years at a high level. Assume for purposes of this draft that all players get paid 1/13th of your salary cap every year so that you don’t need to bypass Joe Johnson for Jodie Meeks just because Joe is expensive and you already have several high salaries. 5. Roster: Each team gets 13 players and 1 coach, no restrictions on positions...draft 13 centers if you want; only 1 coach 6. Evaluation Criteria: Draft as if you are starting a new franchise, so consider how your team will play into the future, not just year one. That said, you can choose to weight immediate success or long-term success as you wish. 7. Trades: Teams are free to trade players, coaches or picks but the total number of incoming and outgoing roster spots must be the same. I.e., you can trade your first round pick and fifth round pick for someone’s second and third round picks but can’t trade your first round pick for a second round pick and a tenth round pick. Trades are subject to review but will only be overturned where both a number of posters and the commish (AHF) feel the trade is so unfair that it could ruin balance. Basically, we want to avoid stacking one team up with lopsided trades but trades for fit or due to different projections of talent are fine. 8. Time Limits: We'll start off with an 8 hour time limit for each pick (see note on nighttime shutdown). So when the person before you picks, you have 8 hours from then to make your selection or you are skipped. If you are skipped, the next person's clock starts and they have 8 hours. You may make up skipped picks at any time. Just post who you want when you get back to the thread. We may decrease time limit if the draft drags to a crawl and people aren’t expected to take that long if they are available. Draft moving smoothly, but we'll decide that as a group. One Caveat: The clock does not run from 10pm-7am EST. So if team 5 makes a selection at 9pm then team 6 has until 2pm the next day (1 hour until 10pm then 7 hours after 7am.) 9. PM The Next Pick: You should PM the person after you when you make your pick so they know it's their turn. However, everyone should also follow along with the thread and know when they are up soon. Please make sure you have set your preferences to receive emails when you are PM’d. 10. Anticipated Absences – Advance Picks: If your pick is coming up soon and you'll be away, just ask in thread who will take your pm and be around to post it when it's your turn. I like to pm someone picking after me, and ideally someone that I have 2 picks before they go again so I can pm them 2 choices in case my top choice gets selected. I have PM'd Devon so we are on! Edited June 14, 2012 by AHF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted June 12, 2012 Admin Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Thanks for setting this up AHF! I am using your post as a quick reference for the draft after the rules Round 1 1 - Devon - Kevin Durant 2 - Supporter - Lebron James 3 - JayBirdHawk - Kyrie Irving 4 - Capstone - Chris Paul 5 - AHF - Dwight Howard 6 - sultanofatl - Andrew Bynum 7 - Diesel - Kevin Love 8 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - Deron Williams 9 - Dolfan - Blake Griffin 10 - Mutombolievable - Russell Westbrook 11 - Alejandro09 - Derrick Rose 12 - Buzzard - DeMarcus Cousins 13 - jy23 - Rajon Rondo 14 - Nicholasp27 - Anthony Davis 15 - LethalWeapon3 - Ricky Rubio 16 - coachx - James Harden Round 2 17 - coachx - LaMarcus Aldridge 18 - LethalWeapon3 - Marc Gasol 19 - Nicholasp27 - Roy Hibbert 20 - jy23 - Dwyane Wade 21 - Buzzard - John Wall 22 - Alejandro09 - Al Horford 23 - Mutombolievable - Josh Smith 24 - Dolfan - Greg Monroe 25 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - Carmelo Anthony 26 - Diesel - Ty Lawson 27 - sultanofatl - Kobe Bryant 28 - AHF - Tony Parker 29 - Capstone21 - Al Jefferson 30 - JayBirdHawk - Tyson Chandler 31 - Supporter - Pau Gasol 32 - Devon - Chris Bosh Round 3 33 - Devon - Serge Ibaka 34 - Supporter - Joe Johnson 35 - JayBirdHawk - Dirk Nowitzki 36 - Capstone21 - Rudy Gay 37 - AHF - Andre Iguodala 38 - sultanofatl - Manu Ginobili 39 - Diesel - Marcin Gortat 40 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - Demar Derozan 41 - Dolfan - Danny Granger 42 - Mutombolievable - Monta Ellis 43 - Alejandro09 - Paul George 44 - Buzzard - David Lee 45 - jy23 - Michael Kidd Gilchrist 46 - Nicholasp27 - Eric Gordon 47 - LethalWeapon3 - Amare Stoudemire 48 - coachx - Luol Deng Round 4 49 - coachx - Stephen Curry 50 - LethalWeapon3 - Nicholas Batum 51 - Nicholasp27 - Danilo Gallinari 52 - jy23 - Paul Millsap 53 - Buzzard - Klay Thompson 54 - Alejandro09 - Joakim Noah 55 - Mutombolievable - Brook Lopez 56 - Dolfan - Brandon Jennings 57 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - David West 58 - Diesel - Aaron Afflalo 59 - sultanofatl - Ryan Anderson 60 - AHF - Kevin Garnett 61 - Capstone21 - Javale McGee 62 - JayBirdHawk - Kawhi Leonard 63 - Supporter - Nene Hilario 64 - Devon - Kyle Lowry Round 5 65 - Devon - Tyreke Evans 66 - Supporter - Ersan Ilyasova 67 - JayBirdHawk - Marshon Brooks 68 - Capstone21 - Wesley Matthews 69 - AHF - Bradley Beal 70 - sultanofatl - Steve Nash 71 - Diesel - Paul Pierce 72 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - Andrew Bogut 73 - Dolfan - Kenneth Faried 74 - Mutombolievable - Wilson Chandler 75 - Alejandro09 - Hold the Mayo 76 - Buzzard - Derrick Favors 77 - jy23 - Tim Duncan 78 - Nicholasp27 - Tristan Thompson 79 - LethalWeapon3 - Thomas Robinson 80 - coachx - DeAndre Jordan Round 6 81 - coachx - Brandon Knight 82 - LethalWeapon3 - Brandon Rush 83 - Nicholasp27 - Jrue Holiday 84 - jy23 - Zach Randolph 85 - Buzzard - Michael Beasley 86 - Alejandro09 - Udonis Haslem 87 - Mutombolievable - Anderson Varejao 88 - Dolfan - Tony Allen 89 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - Mike Conley 90 - Diesel - Jarrett Jack 91 - sultanofatl - Gerald Wallace 92 - AHF - Kevin Martin 93 - Capstone21 - Andrea Bargnani 94 - JayBirdHawk - Thaddeus Young 95 - Supporter - Goran Dragic 96 - Devon - Jordan Crawford Round 7 97 - Devon - Andre Drummond 98 - Supporter - Nikola Pekovic 99 - JayBirdHawk - Kris Humphries 100 - Capstone21 - Evan Turner 101 - AHF - Carlos Boozer 102 - sultanofatl - Kendrick Perkins 103 - Diesel - Trevor Ariza 104 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - Tayshaun Prince 105 - Dolfan - Jeremy Lin 106 - Mutombolievable - Iman Shumpert 107 - Alejandro09 - Devin Harris 108 - Buzzard - Chauncey Billups 109 - jy23 - Steve Novak 110 - Nicholasp27 - Avery Bradley 111 - LethalWeapon3 - Jonas Valančiūnas 112 - coachx - Harrison Barnes Round 8 113 - coachx - Spencer Hawes 114 - LethalWeapon3 - Jeff Teague 115 - Nicholasp27 - Damien Lillard 116 - jy23 - Ray Allen 117 - Buzzard - Jared Dudley 118 - Alejandro09 - Landry Fields 119 - Mutombolievable - Isaiah Thomas 120 - Dolfan - Tiago Splitter 121 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - Tyler Zeller 122 - Diesel - JJ Hickson 123 - sultanofatl - Taj Gibson 124 - AHF - Enes Kanter 125 - Capstone21 - Raymond Felton 126 - JayBirdHawk - George Hill 127 - Supporter - Lou Williams 128 - Devon - Dorrell Wright Round 9 129 - Devon - Darren Collison 130 - Supporter - Marcus Thornton 131 - JayBirdHawk - Meyers Leonard 132 - Capstone21 - Samuel Dalembert 133 - AHF - Eric Bledsoe 134 - sultanofatl - Mario Chalmers 135 - Diesel - Emeka Okafor 136 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - J.R. Smith 137 - Dolfan - Danny Green 138 - Mutombolievable – Marvin Williams 139 - Alejandro09 - Gordon Hayward 140 - Buzzard - Jose Calderon 141 - jy23 - Zaza Pachulia 142 - Nicholasp27 - Shane Battier 143 - LethalWeapon3 - Kevin Seraphin 144 - coachx - Thabo Sefolosha Round 10 145 - coachx - Andre Miller 146 - LethalWeapon3 - Courtney Lee 147 - Nicholasp27 - Tom Thibodeau 148 - jy23 - Ramon Sessions 149 - Buzzard - Lamar Odom 150 - Alejandro09 - Gregg Popovich 151 - Mutombolievable - Omer Asik 152 - Dolfan - Doc Rivers 153 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - Rick Carlisle 154 - Diesel - Nick Young 155 - sultanofatl - Derrick Williams 156 - AHF - Rodney Stuckey 157 - Capstone21 - Jerry Sloan 158 - JayBirdHawk - George Karl 159 - Supporter - Chandler Parsons 160 - Devon - Scott Brooks Round 11 161 - Devon - Brandon Bass 162 - Supporter - 163 - JayBirdHawk - 164 - Capstone21 - 165 - AHF - 166 - sultanofatl - 167 - Diesel - 168 - PSSSHHHRRR87 - 169 - Dolfan - 170 - Mutombolievable – 171 - Alejandro09 - 172 - Buzzard - 173 - jy23 - 174 - Nicholasp27 - 175 - LethalWeapon3 - 176 - coachx - Edited July 3, 2012 by AHF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) With the 1st pick in the 2012-13 Hawksquawk Summer offseason draft... Devon's Avenue of the Giants Squad selects... SG/SF KEVIN "THE DURANTULA" DURANT - Kevin Durant is an MVP, a scoring champion, and a consumate TEAM-FIRST player. We here at the Avenue of the Giants love his versatility, his scoring prowess, his fire, and his overall BEAST MODE-ness. We believe Durant will not only be our "SUPERSTAR" but also our "Captain" and our "Community Leader".... We couldn't be more excited to have him in the fold!!! Supporter has been PM'd Edited June 12, 2012 by AHF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 12, 2012 Author Moderators Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Nice pick. Please make sure you have PM'd the player behind you and note that in your post. I have done it for this pick. Edited June 26, 2012 by AHF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'm putting it out there that I'm looking to move up for a specific player and am dangling my 2nd & 3rd picks (#32 &33)... I will have to look to AHF for the equivalency factor in trades but I am throwing it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 12, 2012 Author Moderators Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'm putting it out there that I'm looking to move up for a specific player and am dangling my 2nd & 3rd picks (#32 &33)...I will have to look to AHF for the equivalency factor in trades but I am throwing it out there.Primary worry is getting the #s matched so that both sides are giving up 2 picks. Something seriously unbalanced like 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks for someone's 1st, 11th, 12th, and 13th would qualify for veto if people are upset but I don't expect to see anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Before this gets going fast............I want to confirm that 2012 draft eligibale players can be taken this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 12, 2012 Author Moderators Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Before this gets going fast............I want to confirm that 2012 draft eligibale players can be taken this year.Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Cool14/19 should let me get a really strong duo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Cool14/19 should let me get a really strong duoI am thinking the samething with 12 and 21!Good deal and 2nd the thanks for getting this together. Got pretty much what I was wanting with the 12th and 21st picks. I should be able to snag two very talented building blocks at both spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted June 12, 2012 Moderators Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Awesome! I like being dead center of the draft lineup too... Means I'll be able to pick every 16 picks instead of alternating, such as with Hustler who'll pick 3rd and then 30th. A 27 pick spread to draft his #2 option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jy23 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I'm sorry but i feel like drafted college players is going to cheapen the draft....ill roll wit whatever tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted June 13, 2012 Admin Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I'm sorry but i feel like drafted college players is going to cheapen the draft....ill roll wit whatever thoI agree to a point but if this was an expansion draft...players would be drafted out of college too. I would probably take one college player at the most anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 How does it work with picking a coach? Do you do that as one of your draft choices? And can I draft the zombie Red Auerbach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 13, 2012 Author Moderators Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 How does it work with picking a coach? Do you do that as one of your draft choices? And can I draft the zombie Red Auerbach?It does count as one of your draft choices and you choose when to take them. You can take anyone who is a coach (no coach/players) but you get them like the players - as of their status today rather than in their prime. Just as you wouldn't want to take Wilt for that reason, you don't want to take Red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) How does it work with picking a coach? Do you do that as one of your draft choices? And can I draft the zombie Red Auerbach? The selection of a coach counts as a draft pick. I don't think we are picking dead coaches. Seems like the rule last year was that coaches had to have coached their last NBA game within the last 5 years..............I don't think you can draft a college coach who has not coached an NBA game in the last 5 tears......so that elimiates the obvious big name college coaches from the draft pool. Edited in wait for AHF / commissioner confirmation Edited June 13, 2012 by coachx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 It does count as one of your draft choices and you choose when to take them. You can take anyone who is a coach (no coach/players) but you get them like the players - as of their status today rather than in their prime. Just as you wouldn't want to take Wilt for that reason, you don't want to take Red.Can we take college coaches this year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 13, 2012 Author Moderators Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Can we take college coaches this year ?I don't see why not. I am open to anyone as long as they are a viable coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted June 13, 2012 Admin Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Just remember...College Coaches with the exception of Larry Brown have never really translated into a good NBA coach. It is just a different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 It does count as one of your draft choices and you choose when to take them. You can take anyone who is a coach (no coach/players) but you get them like the players - as of their status today rather than in their prime. Just as you wouldn't want to take Wilt for that reason, you don't want to take Red.Thank you for clarifying, but I'd take a dead zombified Red over 95% of the coaches in the NBA today! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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