JTB Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 man i hope ferry get something done and get D12 in a hawks uni! I can only hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Sure sounds like he's going to the Lakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I always believe in "consider the source" in an article and is the article rehashed as indicators of fabrication or not. If you can't name a source and if the article is rife with restatements...it isn't true. Consider this article in the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday for comparison.http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-04-27/sports/os-dwight-howard-trade-andrew-bynum-espn_1_dwight-howard-lakers-orlando-magicThe article has names, faces and new thoughts. I'd believe this article first.At the end of the article, the writer points out that Bynum has reoccurring injuries and is a risk. If he's mentioning it in the article, he's probably heard it from an Orlando official which is why he's stating it (much like JayWalker would do in the past). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggp Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) The way I see it, Orlando gains more from a trade with the Hawks than with the Lakers. While Bynum is a better Center than Horford, he is also a higher health risk. He is also a greater risk to be lost via free agency. I believe the package of Horford and Pachulia are better, in the long run, than Bynum (from a health and signability standpoint). Keep in mind that the loss of DH12 is a major black eye to the Magic and to Orlando at large. Trading DH12 for the "native son" (Horford) would mitigate the pain. From DH's point of view, the Lakers look more attractive today. However, if he listens to sound advice, he may come to realize that Kobe (now 35 years old) does not plan to play for many more years. Nash is 39 years old and will certainly not be around for long. In three years, the Lakers may be down to a bunch of unknowns and a whining DH12. CP3 is a FA next year but will likely not be signable for the Lakers. Edited July 7, 2012 by ggp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurider05 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Honestly if I was LA I would see if the Nets would take Bynum for Lopez, Brooks, Humphries, and those draft picks. Honestly I don't think that Howard is that much better than Bynum. Bynum is the superior offensive player without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 i am not expecting the hawks to land d12, but i'm encouraged by reports that we have been in discussions with orlando for him. what i hope this does is drive up the price for any other team that would acquire him so much so that it really screws them in the end when his back goes out again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Bynum's attitude sucks. and he tends to be lazy. The Magic have to take this into consideration that he'd get there and cop an attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 This idea that Dwight isn't much better than Bynum is about as ridiculous as the idea that Devin Harris will be just as good as Chris Paul.Dwight is one of the top 3 players in the NBA, period. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 The way I see it, Orlando gains more from a trade with the Hawks than with the Lakers. While Bynum is a better Center than Horford, he is also a higher health risk. He is also a greater risk to be lost via free agency. I believe the package of Horford and Pachulia are better, in the long run, than Bynum (from a health and signability standpoint). Keep in mind that the loss of DH12 is a major black eye to the Magic and to Orlando at large. Trading DH12 for the "native son" (Horford) would mitigate the pain. From DH's point of view, the Lakers look more attractive today. However, if he listens to sound advice, he may come to realize that Kobe (now 35 years old) does not plan to play for many more years. Nash is 39 years old and will certainly not be around for long. In three years, the Lakers may be down to a bunch of unknowns and a whining DH12. CP3 is a FA next year but will likely not be signable for the Lakers. I think Horford is better than Bynum. Bynum is a better center but Horford isn't a center to me anyway. I would take Marc Gasol and Cousins over Bynum. Bynum is a bigger Al Jefferson with less range and a worse attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 The lesson here is to not believe everything you read in print. 90% of what they put out there is BS. I stand by my assertion that Dwight will be willing to commit to Atlanta long term. My reasoning for that is the fact that Dwight has wanted to play here before. That desire may have been dampened by the mismanagement of this team in recent years, but today is a new day. A once disgruntled Josh Smith is now excited about what is ahead for the Hawks, and Dwight's closest friend is Josh Smith. If you do not think that what Danny Ferry has done in a short time has changed Dwight's outlook on the Hawks or that Dwight isn't interested in playing alongside Josh Smith, then I think you are simply looking for something to be negative about.This is going to happen. Dwight will come home, and the hometown duo of Dwight and Josh will lead the Hawks to their first championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red2play Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I doubt the trade will happen unless the Lakers will be willing to part with Howard after one yr. He's not going to watch Lobe jacking up shots while he plays mr rebounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Am I the only one who thinks this trade is going to drag on for a few months?I hope it doesn't but I see this spectacle going on for quite some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDash Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) ATL can give ORL a lot more than Lakers, IMO Edited July 8, 2012 by iDash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggp Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The lesson here is to not believe everything you read in print. 90% of what they put out there is BS. I stand by my assertion that Dwight will be willing to commit to Atlanta long term. My reasoning for that is the fact that Dwight has wanted to play here before. That desire may have been dampened by the mismanagement of this team in recent years, but today is a new day. A once disgruntled Josh Smith is now excited about what is ahead for the Hawks, and Dwight's closest friend is Josh Smith. If you do not think that what Danny Ferry has done in a short time has changed Dwight's outlook on the Hawks or that Dwight isn't interested in playing alongside Josh Smith, then I think you are simply looking for something to be negative about. This is going to happen. Dwight will come home, and the hometown duo of Dwight and Josh will lead the Hawks to their first championship. Of course, I hope that you are right. I have not followed the NBA closely for nearly a decade. I suppose that I tired of seeing the same teams dominate over a bunch of trashy teams. But, as I peak into the NBA from time to time, I am seeing a trend to a more even playing field. So, I am back. I know that Josh and Dwight played together in the AAU, and that most people assume that JS and DH are close friends. Is this definitely true? Because if it is, Atlanta must be considered the favorite destination for DH. Secondly, how will the departure of JJ affect JS? Could JS actually feel less compelled to jack up jumpers? Will JS concentrate in his post up game? Finally, what is DH's health status? Will his back be a problem that will affect him throughout his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Sounds like the Nets are close to getting Howard, according to Ken Berger who says that the Nets are close to find a 3rd team to take Humphries, which would send Dwight to the Nets. ajchawks MT @KBergCBS: Nets "making progress" on finding 3rd team to take Humphries in scenario that would send Dwight to Nets, source says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted July 8, 2012 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 How soon is now? Song from the past really sums up this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Cleveland (because Gilbert is still salty with Lebron) and Philly (since Brand was let go) are the two likely 3rd teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeltdown Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) I am trying think of a team that needs a PF. Phoenix, Denver, Spurs, Charlotte, 76ers. Hopefully this gets done by the 11th so Ferry can get on with trading Josh Smith. Edited July 8, 2012 by MrMeltdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggp Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I am trying think of a team that needs a PF. Phoenix, Denver, Spurs, Charlotte, 76ers. Hopefully this gets done by the 11th so Ferry can get on with trading Josh Smith. Hate him that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted July 9, 2012 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 KB you must have some info or a good gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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