HawkItus Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Sorry Benhill but I couldn't resist...but anyway here is my response1) I'll give you the injury bug but other teams like the Bulls, Pacers, Knicks etc are experiencing the same injury bug.2) Josh is LD's creation. 3 years ago under Woodson, Josh took 5 three's the entire season! Know look at him3) Home court disadvantage come from #2 and the inconsistency of this team..I mean getting blown out by Portland at home while in a playoff race???4) Ownership has spent the money...have they spent as much as LA? No! But there are plenty of teams that haven't who are better than the Hawks like Denver, Memphis and Houston.5) Houston had a major roster change, Chicago has had a major roster change, New Jersey has had a major roster change, Boston has had a major roster change. Many team have had major roster changes and some times it improved the team.6) The only coach with Job security is Pop. Heck they were talking about firing Spostra during the 1st month of the season.5) we are right there with those teams......so what are you saying? We are what we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted March 27, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 5) we are right there with those teams......so what are you saying? We are what we are.Just refuting the claim by Benhill that LD is the only coach in the playoffs with obstacles and therefore shoud be revered because he alone has overcome these obstacles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted March 27, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Most of the rotating lineups is caused by injuries. Previous years everyone freaked out because we never changed the starting lineup. As far as having obstacles like other teams. I can't think of any other teams with zero all stars and only 2 players under contract beyond this season that are having as good a year as we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted March 27, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) Most of the rotating lineups is caused by injuries. Previous years everyone freaked out because we never changed the starting lineup. As far as having obstacles like other teams. I can't think of any other teams with zero all stars and only 2 players under contract beyond this season that are having as good a year as we are. let us not fool ourselves...Horford is an all star but I'll give it a crack. Denver had zero all stars and are playing better than us. And the 2 players under contract next year thing does not impact this year. Edited March 27, 2013 by Peoriabird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) Just refuting the claim by Benhill that LD is the only coach in the playoffs with obstacles...I never claimed that he's the only coach with obstacles. Edited March 27, 2013 by benhillboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted March 27, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 For the record though, I'd love to see Drew get replaced. He just isn't the guy for the job. Our players do not match up with what he is trying to run. He is also too buddy buddy with the players to really be respected. His substitutions suck and I have never liked these coaches that just allow the players to free-wheel. I like coaches like Doug Collins, Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan, and even Larry Brown because they all have schemes and are heavily involved in the game. Until their later years, those guys were never sitting on the bench and quiet. They were working the sidelines. I said it from the get go that our biggest FA pickup this summer will be a new HC, hopefully a big name too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckus Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I said it from the get go that our biggest FA pickup this summer will be a new HC, hopefully a big name too.Like who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 let us not fool ourselves...Horford is an all star but I'll give it a crack. Denver had zero all stars and are playing better than us. And the 2 players under contract next year thing does not impact this year.Iguodala is an Olympian if not an All-Star. Denver is a good comparison though. With our full squad and the relative health they have enjoyed I think that is who we would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted March 27, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 let us not fool ourselves...Horford is an all star but I'll give it a crack. Denver had zero all stars and are playing better than us. And the 2 players under contract next year thing does not impact this year. Doesn't impact this year????? The majority of our rotation players are guys mainly acquired because of their contract status not because they fit our vision or what we wanted to build. Denver can't say that. The lone Ferry long term acquisition, Lou, has been hurt most of the year. Not taking anything away from Denver but they are 17-20 on the road. Still i really like their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted March 27, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I prefer Leaping "Larry" Poffo. ~lw3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthepureshooter Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I wonder what player stepped up in the locker room and got his Kobe Bryant on.. Drew definitely needs to hear it from his captains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted March 27, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Like who?Hell if I know... Wouldn't mind Stan/Jeff Van Gundy. Maybe Blatt... Who knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I chuckled at this given the context of this thread. BobRathbunTV Hawk starters delayed. Waiting onRudy Gay's status. @SportSouth But then those talking about LD not forcing teams to adjust to his own lineup instead of matching up with theirs were the same ones complaining when we had the most consistent starting lineup in the entire league for about 3-4 years straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthepureshooter Posted March 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 And he does it again.. LOL benched Teague for absolutely no reason. Worst coaching I've seen when you're trying to improve playoff positioning.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 You guys bitch about Drew but the team is overachieving. I don't think LD is Phil Jackson but you're attacking him for a sorry team with an above average record. If you want to find fault with him look for his lack of reigning Josh Smith in. If Josh Smith followed directions he would be a top 20 NBA player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFuzz Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 You guys bitch about Drew but the team is overachieving. I don't think LD is Phil Jackson but you're attacking him for a sorry team with an above average record. If you want to find fault with him look for his lack of reigning Josh Smith in. If Josh Smith followed directions he would be a top 20 NBA player. Pretty much how I feel. Other than keeping Josh in check he's decent. There are certainly worse coaches in the league. Of course, I'd like an upgrade if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank966 Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) LD is solid, not great. He makes really poor roster/lineup changes that ill never understand. Then he will follow up with a brilliant play call from a timeout. Games like tonight make you wonder what his strategy is. There were a lot of players like Mack that got quality minutes. You've gotta wonder if he's playing Mack and Scott to see if they will be able to compete in the playoffs. Or if he is resting his other players. Edited March 30, 2013 by frankthetank966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted March 30, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 You guys bitch about Drew but the team is overachieving. I don't think LD is Phil Jackson but you're attacking him for a sorry team with an above average record. If you want to find fault with him look for his lack of reigning Josh Smith in. If Josh Smith followed directions he would be a top 20 NBA player.I'm sorry Gsuteke...If LD were serious about teaching Josh Smith how to play power forward then evey time he started jacking up shots like he did in the 3rd las night, he would be pulled out of games like he does other players after far less crimes. LD is one of the biggest Josh Smith enablers simply because there are no consequences to his actions. Rather, there are more rewards like running plays for Smith when clearly his offense or lack there of is the reason that the Hawks' offense stalls on any giving night. This is why Drew must go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) 185 three point attempts for Smith this year . . making 31%. 442 shots from 16 feet or further, representing 40.6% of his total shots . . . shooting 30% FG on those shots. Smith STILL has a negative Offensive Win Score for the season ( - 0.6 ) In 3 years under Drew, Smith has attempted 448 threes in 212 games, making 30.4% of them If he can't get Josh Smith to play the right way, he needs to go, no matter how much this team is "overachieving". Edited March 30, 2013 by northcyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 It's hard for me to praise LD for his good decisions when every night I know Josh has free reign to be as inefficient as he desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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