JTB Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) Don't get me wrong I like Lou Williams alot but if I were Ferry I would play possum with him and by that I mean I would be ready to trade Lou away to team that could give us more cap space! I mean the guy has a decent contract for what he's worth so it shouldn't be too hard to trade him away.If ferry can he should sign CP3,D12,Iggy and then trade away Lou.But don't take me serious on this of course but unlike many I think the hawks off season will go like this....CP3-signs for 15m a yearD12-signs for 15m a yearIggy-signs for 8m a yearHorford-makes 12m a year Ferry trades away Lou and keeps Jenkins. That's my prediction on what will happen this off season. Also with that lineup I say John Jenkins will start.In so many words I guess Im trading iggy for Lou but hey in my eyes that makes Howard and Paul want to be here more seeing horford and iggy rather than horford and Lou.....just saying FERRY SPICE IT UP!!! Edited June 14, 2013 by JTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jody23 Posted June 14, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 If push comes to shove................maybe. But I'd hate to see us part with him. If we don't get the Big Two we're gonna need him big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Lou is definitely expendable. 42% FG . . . 37% 3FG . . . and a defensive mismatch on most nights, especially alongside Devin Harris. Plus he went to the FT line far less ( on a per 36 minute basis ) than in past years. The Hawks have been successful in filling the "volume scorer off the bench" role. - Lue- Flip- Jamal- Lou Just trade him off for MarShon Brooks, and let him do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted June 14, 2013 Moderators Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Iggy @ $8 mil = Lou @ $5 mil + 2 vet min guys. Trading three roster spots for one. I'd rather fill the roster than get Iggy. Lou is a great sixth man and who knows who those vet min guys could be... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jody23 Posted June 14, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Iggy @ $8 mil = Lou @ $5 mil + 2 vet min guys. Trading three roster spots for one. I'd rather fill the roster than get Iggy. Lou is a great sixth man and who knows who those vet min guys could be...I extremely doubt Lou goes anywhere. I think Ferry sees him as a long term fixture for the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jody23 Posted June 14, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 If push comes to shove................maybe. But I'd hate to see us part with him. If we don't get the Big Two we're gonna need him big time.He'll be much needed if the Hawks get Howard and Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankthetank966 Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 You do realize Lou will be our starting SG or Sixth man next year. Both positions are extremely valuable and he is being paid below market price considering what free agents sign for this era. Jenkins is not ready to assume the role as our sixth man or starting SG next year. Lou is one of the purest shooters in the NBA off the pick/screen. Why would the Hawks deal him for draft picks when they have four? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 You do realize Lou will be our starting SG or Sixth man next year. Both positions are extremely valuable and he is being paid below market price considering what free agents sign for this era. Jenkins is not ready to assume the role as our sixth man or starting SG next year. Lou is one of the purest shooters in the NBA off the pick/screen. Why would the Hawks deal him for draft picks when they have four?Who said trade him for draft picks?! I said more cap space in other words find a team to dump him on and take little to nothing back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Who said trade him for draft picks?! I said more cap space in other words find a team to dump him on and take little to nothing backWhat exactly is "little to nothing" in your mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q45T Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 How about no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 What exactly is "little to nothing" in your mind?I am not sure who he wants to trade one of the best 6th man in the NBA who wants to be here and buy into the system who makes just over 5 million. I am not sure why he wants to do it at all. If Ferry plays his cards, he can land D12 and CP3 at 17.4 million. If they want Korver back, they can take 15.6 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted June 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 What exactly is "little to nothing" in your mind?Expiring contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Expiring contractsOkay. So to clarify, do you want him off the books this year or next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BrazilianHawk Posted June 15, 2013 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Cap Space doesn't play, you know... People need to realize that if Ferry guts the team and fails to land Howard and/or Paul, he's got nothing but Horford. I doubt Horf will want to play for a rebuilding team when his contract is up. So please stop dreaming about the divas and let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Cap Space doesn't play, you know... People need to realize that if Ferry guts the team and fails to land Howard and/or Paul, he's got nothing but Horford. I doubt Horf will want to play for a rebuilding team when his contract is up. So please stop dreaming about the divas and let But this is only Lou Williams we're talking about. Some of you act like the dude is the best thing since sliced bread. So let's say we keep Lou, how many minutes a game does he play, and where does he play, if we land Paul and Howard? As the starting PG, Chris Paul is going to average 36 or so minutes a game. Lou averaged almost 29 minutes a game last year. If those numbers stay the same, Lou would HAVE to be the backup PG, just so the Hawks can keep some sort of size balance on the floor. So that's 12 minutes as the backup PG. If Lou averages 29 minutes as the 6th man, we're looking at 6 - 0 . . 175 lbs Chris Paul and 6 - 1 . . 175 lbs Lou Williams playing 17 minutes together in the backcourt? How does that help us against a team like the Indiana Pacers, who can throw 6-2 . . 190 lbs George Hill and 6-5 . . 230 lbs Lance Stephenson at us? Or when they get Granger back, and they move 6-8 . . 220 lbs Paul George to the 2? In reality, the Hawks don't need a 6th man the size of Lou Williams. We need a 6th man that can play the SG or SF spot. Even if we don't land Paul and Howard, but bring back Teague, the same thing will apply. You're going to have 6-1 . . 175 lbs Lou Williams and 6-2 . . 180 lbs Jeff Teague having to play a significant amount of minutes together. Neither can guard a decent 2 guard. Those undersized lineups can win games vs lesser teams, but they'd get destroyed in the playoffs when the competition and the game play gets a lot rougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 But this is only Lou Williams we're talking about. Some of you act like the dude is the best thing since sliced bread. So let's say we keep Lou, how many minutes a game does he play, and where does he play, if we land Paul and Howard? As the starting PG, Chris Paul is going to average 36 or so minutes a game. Lou averaged almost 29 minutes a game last year. If those numbers stay the same, Lou would HAVE to be the backup PG, just so the Hawks can keep some sort of size balance on the floor. So that's 12 minutes as the backup PG. If Lou averages 29 minutes as the 6th man, we're looking at 6 - 0 . . 175 lbs Chris Paul and 6 - 1 . . 175 lbs Lou Williams playing 17 minutes together in the backcourt? How does that help us against a team like the Indiana Pacers, who can throw 6-2 . . 190 lbs George Hill and 6-5 . . 230 lbs Lance Stephenson at us? Or when they get Granger back, and they move 6-8 . . 220 lbs Paul George to the 2? In reality, the Hawks don't need a 6th man the size of Lou Williams. We need a 6th man that can play the SG or SF spot. Even if we don't land Paul and Howard, but bring back Teague, the same thing will apply. You're going to have 6-1 . . 175 lbs Lou Williams and 6-2 . . 180 lbs Jeff Teague having to play a significant amount of minutes together. Neither can guard a decent 2 guard. Those undersized lineups can win games vs lesser teams, but they'd get destroyed in the playoffs when the competition and the game play gets a lot rougher.Yep, nothing wrong with trading him for cap space if the space is needed to sign better talent. Also nothing wrong with keeping him as a back up either. It's Lou Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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