NBASupes Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 In the middle. Going nowhere. Fired Ferry, Coach Bud fired and went to a great franchise like Carlisle. In the same place. I hate this franchise man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Will Horford still be playing the 5?Additionally will Kyle's streak still be intact? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Don't you just love this enthusiasm!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Good, I can't cope with change. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted February 16, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Unless we get a big break via the draft or trade we will remain a decent team, not a contender but a middle of the pack team. We have a good coach, not sure about the rest of the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted February 16, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 In the middle. Going nowhere. Fired Ferry, Coach Bud fired and went to a great franchise like Carlisle. In the same place. I hate this franchise man.Sounds like you don't think any moves are gonna be made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Sounds like you don't think any moves are gonna be made.I want to give Ferry the vote of confidence but look at this franchise, we have been in this same position since Nique was traded. Even with Nique, we were never as good as Boston, Philly, or LA. We were at the same level as Milwaukee. I talked to some peeps in the industry, new guys. Nothing concrete like before but word out of Minny is they might explore deals but they really REALLY want to keep Love. I checked on Larry Sanders. Mil are willing to trade him but mid 1st at the least and a decent player. The market isn't offering close to do that. Teams want him for 2/10. Asik is in talks about nothing legit. NY wants him but not for what Houston wants. NY is willing to trade everybody BUT Hardaway and Melo. So basically they aren't willing to trade nobody valuable. Teague trade rumors overblown. Atlanta wants a good offer, Denver is an option. Gallo is on the block. Boston wants too much for Green. Not sure about Atlanta interest. I read an internet article on here but I don't think that's real. Melo wants to be in NY. I guess it's big news because the media says he doesn't but like I said, there guys aren't sound, they are just hearing work of mouth stuff. I don't hear much about the Hawks other than others on the Hawks. Either they keep shit close to the vest or nothing is going to happen. Others have said they are active tho but didn't say what for outside of Jeff. What do I think. Jeff won't be traded. If so, it will be a good trade. Look out for Denver. They have been very active. Boston wants too much. Milwaukee is playing it smart but realgm posting that they like Gordon is true but NO isn't interested in what they are willing to offer. As for Blockbusters, Love could be traded. Not likely and who is in it, I don't know.Melo is going no where.Westbrook is going no where.Horford is likely going no where.Noah is going no where.Milsap is likely going no where.So nothing should happen. Watch for the Magic. Watch for the Bobcats. Watch for the Cavs. Watch for the Suns. Teams who probably are staying put: Spurs, Nets, Hawks, Celtics, Bulls, Lakers, and Heat. So to answer your question, I have very little hope in the Hawks but I can't say they aren't trying. I just don't think people value the Hawks players outside of Horford and they don't value Horford as much as I value him from the years past when Sund was GM. I remember Utah wanting him Deron and Denver wanting him for Melo but I am glad Atlanta passed on it. Horf is worth more to me than those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted February 16, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We have to make a deal for Love. I truly believe if we get a playoff run with him as the main guy he'll want to stay here. The team needs a motor first before we can make a championship contender and we don't have anyone that is close to being a superstar on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 We have to make a deal for Love. I truly believe if we get a playoff run with him as the main guy he'll want to stay here. The team needs a motor first before we can make a championship contender and we don't have anyone that is close to being a superstar on the roster.You can say that but Minny has to be willing to trade Love. That has yet to be seen. But clearly, any Al Horford deal will clearly surpass any other deal on the market. You know how I feel about Al. You know that while I like K. Love and respect the hell out of him, I am not amazed by him in terms of impact on the game regardless if his adv stats say he's 2nd to Durant. His games tell me he has critical holes in his game. I am a firm believer that Milsap is a good player and a great pickup but he can be moved for the defensive center with lesser talent. He isn't Pek. Pek is a player I wouldn't move period. Good centers don't come around everyday. Inside scoring, sets great picks, can defend his position, strength. I love Pek. You don't downgrade from guys like Pek or Marc Gasol. I would downgrade from Milsap if the fit was there honestly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Teague for whom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Thant mentality is old thinking. If we still had Woody or Sund I'd agree. The jury is still out. I don't see it that bleak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckus Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 What a polarizing topic. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Zaza is on the market, let's make it happen! Then the Hawks will make the biggest acquisition of the year as a result...Colin's return to the Squawk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q45T Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'm sure the Pelicans will have won a championship by then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member supermariowest Posted February 17, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well, as long as they are in the same place geographically... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted February 17, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'd be thrilled if the Hawks are still in Atlanta in ten years. I just hope they wise up like the Braves did and move to Cobb or Gwinett to get the attendance numbers up. lmao This is a different franchise, but great teams don't happen over night. We're still in transition here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member turnermx Posted February 17, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I dont want to offend anybody but sometimes fans can be fickle. I guess Hawks fans have been beaten down over the years, but i have seen a lot of signs that tell me this franchise is on the right track. Bud wouldnt have left the Spurs for our head coaching job if it were not that way.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted February 17, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I dont want to offend anybody but sometimes fans can be fickle. I guess Hawks fans have been beaten down over the years, but i have seen a lot of signs that tell me this franchise is on the right track. Bud wouldnt have left the Spurs for our head coaching job if it were not that way.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI think folks are just tired of year after year hoping just to have those hopes dashed. DF had to get something going before 5 years cause the attendance is in the dumpster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WraithSentinel Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I was just thinking about this the other day. If Bud and Ferry can't turn around the culture of this team then quite honestly no one will ever be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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