GameTime Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Overpay for Deng or Monroe? Atlanta will have to overpay to get the better players to come here. The Hawks have a reputation of being cheap and nobody comes to the games.. If you were a big time free agent why would you want to go to Atlanta? Until Ferry pulls in a big free agent, every summer will remain as it has the last 10 years where cap space means nothing. So if/when we overpay for these "treadmill" players, Squawk won't outrage over it? C'mon now. Will maxing out Deng/Monroe make us contenders?This is what Ferry is considering and rightfully so. Edited July 7, 2014 by GameTime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 7, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Won't surprise me if 24 hours from now, we're talking about Ferry having signed someone who isn't named Deng or Monroe or Bazemore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudBall Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Thabo and Bazemore very exciting offseason thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Like someone said earlier. If Thabo and Bazemore were the final 2 signings of free agency, maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal. But when those guys could possibly be the first two that are signed, which may prohibit a deal with a significant higher priced player . . . it's just disappointing. It's like missing out on getting the hot girl at the club . . . and settling for the OK looking fat girl at the end of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Spurs also checking out Marvin, so make what you will with that. Can't go chase everyone they're after. MW would probably do well in their system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Like someone said earlier. If Thabo and Bazemore were the final 2 signings of free agency, maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal. But when those guys could possibly be the first two that are signed, which may prohibit a deal with a significant higher priced player . . . it's just disappointing. It's like missing out on getting the hot girl at the club . . . and settling for the OK looking fat girl at the end of the night. Oh no, it's like psyching yourself out of speaking to the hot chick and telling yourself, "Well I'm a 4 so I better stick to these fat 2's in the corner." And then selling yourself on how hot the 2 could be in the right system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Like someone said earlier. If Thabo and Bazemore were the final 2 signings of free agency, maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal. But when those guys could possibly be the first two that are signed, which may prohibit a deal with a significant higher priced player . . . it's just disappointing. It's like missing out on getting the hot girl at the club . . . and settling for the OK looking fat girl at the end of the night. I have always found that having a group of 5's readily available and willing is better than the effort and stress it takes to maintain having a 10. At the end of the day, the 10 is just there to show off to your friends and you deal with their bullshit. After a while, you realize it just wasn't worth the time, effort and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrypack Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 the hawks probably just want more flexibility before whatever trade is coming. i like this bazemore guy, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted July 7, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Part of my curiosity of his potential at backup PG is based on his defined role at 2013 Summer League. Tweet Added - Refresh Page to see it live!If you don't see the Tweet here AFTER REFRESHING PAGE, then it wasn't entered correctly. Please edit and try again.Important: If the Tweet doesn't load, please refresh the page before editing the Tweet as it may need to refresh to parse properly http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/61708/kent-bazemores-good-cheer The Warriors designated him as a small forward before his rookie season. Right now, he’s handling point guard duties for Golden State’s summer league squad, running high pick-and-rolls like a Stephen Curry understudy. Looks like it worked out OK. At least in Summer League, anyway. Was he the main guy setting up MVP Ian Clark in the title game? Plus, with guys like Klay, Dre, and Harrison piling up the minutes at the wing, it seems the Dubs were aiming for Baze to continue to develop at the 1. http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2013/07/22/kent-bazemore-takes-his-game-to-another-level/ Bazemore’s handle is not yet crisp enough to take on NBA point guards, and he still turns it over too much for his own liking. But the Warriors don’t need him to be Stephen Curry. With his defensive ability and athleticism, the Warriors can use him in spots. And if he can give them something on offense, that makes it so much easier for coach Mark Jackson to put Bazemore on the court. His summer league performance shows they can probably stand to put him on the ball to make a play for a few minutes while unleashing him on defense. G-State's 2013 summer acquisition of Toney Douglas didn't work out and he was sent packing to Miami in the three-team deal for Jordan Crawford and MarShon Brooks. Bazemore's and Brooks' subsequent trade to L.A. brought the Warriors a more ready-and-reliable PG in Steve Blake and allowed them to bring up their first-rounder PG Nemanja Nedovic, moves that also didn't really pan out at playoff time (Blake underutilized, Nedovic too raw). http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/03/11/bazemore-hopes-to-stick-with-lakers-learn-from-bryant/ In 44 games with Golden State this season, Bazemore averaged 6.1 mpg and 2.1 ppg. The Warriors swapped Bazemore’s potential for the need-it-now veteran reliability of point guard Steve Blake. Bazemore said he holds no grudges and praised Golden State’s ownership and management for inviting him onto their Summer League team in 2012 and then signing him to a two-year contract. He thanked the Warriors’ coaching staff, saying “they were all out for my best interests” and blamed himself for the need for a trade by not being ready to assume the backup point guard role. ~lw3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairydawgz Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Projecting lol Those are things you could read on any free agent or draft profile. Not a single person in this thread thinks a 3 million dollar young journeyman is a star. Star no, but a piece yes. Wonder how much Danny Green signed for with SA before he became a key Playoff contributor? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Star no, but a piece yes. Wonder how much Danny Green signed for with SA before he became a key Playoff contributor? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He made 94k his 1st year in San Antonio and even last year only made 3.8 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 He made 94k his 1st year in San Antonio and even last year only made 3.8 million. I'd say the ROI there was worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianluca Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Not saying he wont be a good fit but there is nothing about signing this dude that would pump me up. Thats just me though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Not saying he wont be a good fit but there is nothing about signing this dude that would pump me up. Thats just me though... It's not just you ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRid Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 I hate to go negative, but I can't help but think it will be a pretty hard sell to get him to come here instead of to the Spurs. I imagine we will have to offer quite a bit more money. It would be interesting to hear Ferry and Coach Bud's pitch to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 I hate to go negative, but I can't help but think it will be a pretty hard sell to get him to come here instead of to the Spurs. I imagine we will have to offer quite a bit more money. It would be interesting to hear Ferry and Coach Bud's pitch to him. We can offer him a much better opportunity for playing time and thus earning a bigger contract in the future than the Spurs can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRid Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 We can offer him a much better opportunity for playing time and thus earning a bigger contract in the future than the Spurs can. Yeah, I was thinking that was about the only thing we can say, but I'm curious how much more playing time he will get here. I assume more than with the Spurs, but how much more. I'm curious what Bud's real plan is for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted July 7, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 We can offer him a much better opportunity for playing time and thus earning a bigger contract in the future than the Spurs can. Yes, right now PT, opportunity and salary are more important to a guy like Baz then a championship ready team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Ok I see the big deal in this kid Bazemore now! He barely played on GS and when he was traded in Feb. to LA this kid turned on the light switch and just went off! The hype is just potential but I trust coach bud and ferrys opinion and if coach bud feels strong about this guy than great! After all bud did speak with him last week face to face (I think I read that) Anyways check out dudes game log after being traded and actually getting minutes on the floor: http://m.espn.go.com/nba/playergamelog?playerId=6637&season=2014&month=2 No wonder are fans are hyped. Young guy with good size, very aggressive on defense, good athletic ability, his shot is questionable but in LA when he got time on the court he was 37 percent on the 3ball....I don't know guys he may develop to be something very special! Looks like he just need two things...... -another opportunity (check) -good coaching (check) Bring him home ferry! It's about time we have actually 2 guards with size! Edited July 7, 2014 by JTB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSmith Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 Kent would be a good pickup. I think he'll go with the best offer and I don't think that will be the Hawks. It's a long shot, but maybe Bud and Ferry were able to sell him on the organization and development program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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