Premium Member sturt Posted July 12, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Does anyone think we won't be trading Sap or Horf if we sign a Gasol... and in the process, gaining a 2 or 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member turnermx Posted July 12, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hmm... I wonder how tight Pau and Baze were ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Does anyone think we won't be trading Sap or Horf if we sign a Gasol... and in the process, gaining a 2 or 3? Does anyone think we will actually get Gasol? He supposedly turned down 2 offers today, 2 years, $23 mill and 3 years, $29 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Teague/Korver/DMC/Millsap/Horford - Ferry doing work in the off-season. Draft and free agency totally upgraded the starting line-up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member turnermx Posted July 12, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Does anyone think we won't be trading Sap or Horf if we sign a Gasol... and in the process, gaining a 2 or 3? I am not sure, nothing wrong with having a deep rotation of bigs and i don't think Sap would mind coming off the bench for 30mpg if we started Horf/Pau at the 4/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeman Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Great signing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 So no more wings I take it? DMC is the starter again. Yep. That chump will be starting again next year. Kyle Korver also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrypack Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 So no more wings I take it? DMC is the starter again. yeah, what is the big play? i still like this team in the east. (currently watching rise of the planet of the apes, so i am probably getting overly optimistic.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSET Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Probably not official yet! Bazemore's cousin, Vivlamore, hasn't got the press release for this yet. {/sarcasm} But Thabo fits under the NTMLE and Bazemore fits under the BAE. Danny's got some 'splainin' to do. Please explain more. What exactly is the NTMLE and what does this suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Low risk high reward. Love it. Ferry move faaaaaaaaa sho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Can we win a championship with Horford as our best player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatWerkk Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Please explain more. What exactly is the NTMLE and what does this suggest. If I understand the implication here, we could use all $11 millionish of our cap on another FA and then use a couple of our exceptions to cover Thabo and Kent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Bazed God 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 If I understand the implication here, we could use all $11 millionish of our cap on another FA and then use a couple of our exceptions to cover Thabo and Kent. OUR FREE AGENCY IS OVER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Isn't Patterson already our roster's Bazemore though (the 12th man that will be the cheerleader)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks3 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 If I understand the implication here, we could use all $11 millionish of our cap on another FA and then use a couple of our exceptions to cover Thabo and Kent. Wouldn't it be back $15 million since that was the projected cap space we had before signing Thabo (I'm including waiving Salmons)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) I am not sure, nothing wrong with having a deep rotation of bigs and i don't think Sap would mind coming off the bench for 30mpg if we started Horf/Pau at the 4/5I agree with this, I've said previously when you don't have these megastar players as starters it's important to have a deep and capable bench. Edited July 12, 2014 by JayBirdHawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Please explain more. What exactly is the NTMLE and what does this suggest. http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2014/7/11/5890667/atlanta-hawks-salary-cap-update That might explain too much. If I understand the implication here, we could use all $11 millionish of our cap on another FA and then use a couple of our exceptions to cover Thabo and Kent. No. What using the NTMLE and BAE imply is that the Hawks never really had Cap Space to begin with because there was another move that triggered this. The likelihood is low that the Hawks are using NTMLE and BAE for these signings, but it's not 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekiEcko Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 OUR FREE AGENCY IS OVER No it is not, we don't know what Ferry will do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Moderators Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Please explain more. What exactly is the NTMLE and what does this suggest. NTMLE = Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception. From NBA Salary Cap FAQ: Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception - This exception is available only when a team is below the "apron" (i.e., not paying luxury tax, or less than $4 million above the tax line). This determination is made after the exception is used, so a team below the apron cannot use this exception if doing so takes it above the apron. It cannot be used by a team that has already used the Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception or the Room Mid-Level exception. It allows a team to sign any free agent to a contract with a starting salary up to the following amounts3: 2014-15 $5.305 million - I only included info for next season. The exception increases yearly. This exception may be split and given to multiple players. It may be used for contracts up to four years in length, with raises up to 4.5% of the salary in the first year of the contract. Signing a player to a multi-year contract does not affect a team's ability to use this exception every year -- for example, a team can use this exception to sign a player to a four-year contract, and use it again the following year to sign another player. Also see question number 26 for more information on the availability and use of this exception. If the player is a restricted free agent with one or two years of service and receives an offer sheet from a new team, the player's prior team may use the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception to match the offer sheet (see question numbers 44 and 45). Again, this exception is only available to teams that are below the "apron," i.e., below the point $4 million above the tax line. Teams above the apron instead must use the smaller Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see below). Further, any team that uses its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception cannot go above the apron for the remainder of that season. In other words, once a team uses its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, it is hard-capped at the apron (see question 28 for more information). However, if a team uses its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception but does not exceed the constraints of the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (e.g., in 2011-12 they use the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception to sign a player for $3 million or less), then the team is allowed to later exceed the apron (i.e., it is not hard-capped). If the team later exceeds the apron, then it is considered to have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception rather than the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception. But the converse is not true -- if a team is above the apron and spends any of its Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, it cannot drop below the apron and spend the remaining money as part of its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception. Finally, a team that was above the apron but did not spend any of its Taxpayer Mid-Level exception has full access to the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception if it later drops below the apron. A different team salary definition is used for determining whether a team is above or below the apron. See question number 14 for details. In addition, this exception begins to pro-rate downward daily starting on January 10 each season (see question numbers 26 and 29), and expires following the last day of the team's regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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