Monroe Playing Chess with Pistons

[AHF]

Brain faaaaaart.

The second year cannot be a Player Option. I knew that sounded too good since Chandler Parsons had a 3-year with the 3rd year as a PO.

Carry on.

 

Well that scuttles the whole idea.  Unfortunate.

[Gianluca]

AUBURN HILLS -- Stan Van Gundy gave his most direct assessment to date on Greg Monroe's free agency today, and for the first time admitted he finds some of the uncertainty a bit unnerving.

That doesn't change anything, the Detroit Pistons' president of basketball operations and head coach stressed, because the plan is in place no matter what Monroe decides or whose palms sweat in getting there.

"There's not really anything going on there right now," Van Gundy said. "There's not really a whole lot more that can go on. We'll just see where the situation takes us.

"Look, I'm not sweating it right now, because there's nothing that we can do at this point."

Still, Van Gundy also acknowledged that having his biggest piece of business sit unfinished, after two weeks of free agency, makes him "a little nervous."

"The nervousness is just the unknown," he said. "It's not knowing, beyond this year, especially, where you're going. But again, we have plenty of time, if something happened, to adjust for next year and everything else."


Asked if he has a timeline for finishing Monroe's business, Van Gundy somewhat ominously noted that the timeline is built into the process, citing the October deadline for Monroe to sign a qualifying offer.

If Monroe chooses that route, he would play for less than $5.5 million next season but become an unrestricted free agent in summer of 2015.

The Pistons have discussed a long-term contract with Monroe worth in the range of $12 million annually but the sides haven't agreed. Monroe also hasn't signed an offer sheet with another team, which the Pistons would have three days to match, or they would lose him without compensation.

The stakes are high for both sides.

The Pistons want Monroe back but their stance suggests they may be gambling he doesn't receive a maximum-contract offer, won't sign a qualifying offer to play for less than half his market value, and ultimately agrees to terms with them. If so, and if they're wrong, they could lose Monroe without compensation next summer, and have a potentially unhappy player next season.

Monroe could leverage a better offer on the open market, or get the Pistons to improve theirs with the threat of signing the qualifying offer. But if Monroe signs an offer sheet, the Pistons can match, which he may not want. And if the team is willing to endure a long summer of uncertainty, Monroe will have to decide if he really dislikes it here enough to take the qualifying offer's pay hit.

As free agency pushes ahead, diminished opportunities around the league could be one factor that pushes Monroe toward signing the Pistons' qualifying offer.

"Part of it is Greg and his agent, and their strategy -- if they're pursuing offers, or anything else," Van Gundy said. "It'll play out. I wouldn't say I'm not a little nervous about it. I am. But it's out of my control, at least at this point.

"Again, we've gone over everything, we know how we'll react in every situation. It's not going to throw us for a loop, no matter what happens."

Edited July 14, 2014 by Gianluca

[mrhonline]

Just to throw some more cold water:

 

 

The Pistons and Monroe are believed to have discussed a deal somewhere in the range of the five-year, $60 million contract center Marcin Gortat agreed to last week to remain with the Washington Wizards.

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11193370/nba-stan-van-gundy-returns-orlando-new-team

[TheNorthCydeRises]

The GM isn't signing a big name. He lost his chance to do that.

[JTB]

Just to throw some more cold water:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11193370/nba-stan-van-gundy-returns-orlando-new-team

Ferry should clear space and offer a 4 year 52-55m deal and add some crazy ass trade kickers in year 4 and maybe a player option in year 3..whatever to get it done.

That should get Monroe to the hawks. Pistons would really think about it before matching.

[MaceCase]

Awwwww man, I've been avoiding this thread and it's filled with so many gems. @hawksfanatic on the Bird rights QO issue not that it matters now but I remember it mentioned by then Clippers GM Neil Olshey that Nick Young wanted to play in his home city so bad that he gave up his Bird rights in order to be traded from the Wizards and that they'd be limited to only offering the MLE to him in order to resign because they were projected right at the cap.

.....of course he ended up with Philly on a one year deal right at the MLE and the Clippers replaced him with Jamal for the same amount but longer but I digress to a serious matter....

YES! That kid with the virtual boy was the place to hang out but he tended to also be an entitled prick that you tolerated mostly because of the sweet sweet dunkaroos and lunchables pizzas but also because he had so many toys and games he didn't mind (notice) you "borrowing" a few.

[Plainview1981]

Throw out an offer. Houston said they would match Chandler, but they lied.

[Guest BraveHawk]

Throw out an offer. Houston said they would match Chandler, but they lied.

 

     I agree but do the Hawks currently have enough salary space to even make a reasonable offer?  I am guessing that the Hawks best way to get Monroe (Which, unfortunately, I don't think is going to happen) is a Sign & Trade.

[coachx]

I'd like to say you can tell who is in massive amounts of debt on this board just by looking at their impulse to free agency. Or who bought a virtual boy and sega dreamcast and all those other fancy game systems that bombed.

I was thinking the same thing.

[NBASupes]

     I agree but do the Hawks currently have enough salary space to even make a reasonable offer?  I am guessing that the Hawks best way to get Monroe (Which, unfortunately, I don't think is going to happen) is a Sign & Trade.

We only have 10-11 mil which isn't much more than what DET are willing to offer. A SnT isn't likely, it is the most realistic chance. 

[Admin]

We only have 10-11 mil which isn't much more than what DET are willing to offer. A SnT isn't likely, it is the most realistic chance.

No now we have 9ish after keeping Pero

[NBASupes]

No now we have 9ish after keeping Pero

Exactly, not a shot at Monroe outside of a SnT. 

[Guest]

Awwwww man, I've been avoiding this thread and it's filled with so many gems. @hawksfanatic on the Bird rights QO issue not that it matters now but I remember it mentioned by then Clippers GM Neil Olshey that Nick Young wanted to play in his home city so bad that he gave up his Bird rights in order to be traded from the Wizards and that they'd be limited to only offering the MLE to him in order to resign because they were projected right at the cap.

.....of course he ended up with Philly on a one year deal right at the MLE and the Clippers replaced him with Jamal for the same amount but longer but I digress to a serious matter....

YES! That kid with the virtual boy was the place to hang out but he tended to also be an entitled prick that you tolerated mostly because of the sweet sweet dunkaroos and lunchables pizzas but also because he had so many toys and games he didn't mind (notice) you "borrowing" a few.

There has got to be one of "those kids" hanging around posting on the 'Squawk who had his world crumble around him after we mentioned all this. That or they are saying "I had a Virtual Boy, but I wasn't one of those losers like @MaceCase is talking about. I'm different. Plus they were bagel-bites and not lunchables pizzas."

[Afro]

Dunkaroos were my shit

[MaceCase]

Dunkaroos were my shit

[Guest]

I loved ding dongs....:-X

[Admin]

There has got to be one of "those kids" hanging around posting on the 'Squawk who had his world crumble around him after we mentioned all this. That or they are saying "I had a Virtual Boy, but I wasn't one of those losers like @MaceCase is talking about. I'm different. Plus they were bagel-bites and not lunchables pizzas."

My money would be on @drzachary being that kid

I loved ding dongs....:-X

We've heard!

[Guest]

My money would be on @drzachary being that kid

We've heard!

Ho hos are cool too. Sometimes.