Popular Post TheNorthCydeRises Posted October 3, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 It was the last question he was asked on a great interview that took place yesterday on Sirius/XM - NBA Radio. The hosts basically asked who were his picks for the NBA Finals. He thought for about a second, and said "How about this. Atlanta and San Antonio." Nique is always representing for the Hawks. From my memory, here were the highlights of the 15 minute or so interview, which covered all topics concerning his career and the Hawks. - He's very excited about having his statue at Philips, and said that it was 7 years in the making . . and a long time coming. Didn't reveal which dunk pose it will be, but I think most of us have an idea of what it will be. The Windmill Dunk. - When asked about his new position in the organization, he said that he's now going to be involved with the basketball AND business side of the Hawks. He said the expanded role was, once again . . "a long time coming". As far as being part of an ownership group, he didn't elaborate on if he would or wouldn't be part of a group. - When asked about the Ferry situation, he said that he was a forgiving person, but said "measures have to be put in place so that never happens again". To me, what was interesting about his extended answer to this question, was not only did he stop short of saying that he forgave Ferry, he kept going back to saying that "right is right and wrong is wrong". Doesn't sound like much forgiveness coming from Nique concerning Ferry. Kind of wonder that if there is a lot more animosity there that we don't know about. - Said that his favorite Hawk team to play on, were those mid-80s Hawks teams, and that the 80s era of NBA basketball was the best era. Described it as a MONSTER, because you were going up against a legendary player every night. Even bad teams were good enough to beat you on a nightly basis. - While saying that he feared no one out on the court, the guy that really gave him a lot of trouble was Bernard King. He cited how hard it was to stop King. Interesting that he didn't say Jordan or Bird, but King. The one guy he looked forward to playing against, was Kelly Tripucka. - Said that Lebron and Durant are so good, that they could play in any era. He gushed about the shooting ability of Durant at 6-11 . . and how Lebron was an all-time great athlete. - When talking about the Hawks, he basically gushed on and on about Al Horford as a player and as a leader. Basically said that the entire season hinges on his health. - Is still bugged that he didn't make the 50 Greatest NBA Players of all time list, despite being 6th or 7th leading scorer in NBA history at the time. Felt he was penaltized for his lack of playoff success. and never reaching the Conference Finals ( I cited earlier in the week that Nique was 3 - 8 all time in playoff series ). The hosts of the radio show compared this to Chris Paul, who is a great player, but has never reached the Conference Finals. - Nique and the hosts also cited that he never played with a great player in his prime. Nique feels that hurt his legacy as a player as well. While a few guys made some All-Star teams, only Kevin Willis made an All-NBA team during Nique's tenure as a Hawk. But that was partially because Nique got hurt 1/2 way into the 1991 - 92 season, which enabled Willis to be the focal point of the Hawks, and be 2nd in the league in rebounding, only behind Dennis Rodman. ************* This was arguably the best interview I've ever heard from Nique. The guy doesn't lack confidence, and it showed in his voice when talking about his basketball career, and talking about his executive duties being expanded. Sirius NBA Radio doesn't have the entire interview ( from what I can see ), but they did have this snippet of when Nique was talking about the statue and his expanded position with the Hawks. https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/dominique-wilkins-on-nba-today-discusses-his-statue-and-the-latest-in-the-hawks-leadership 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 That would be a fun Finals. Just imagine the TV ratings nimbers! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted October 3, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Thanks for sharing that! Good read. This remains disturbing: - When asked about the Ferry situation, he said that he was a forgiving person, but said "measures have to be put in place so that never happens again". To me, what was interesting about his extended answer to this question, was not only did he stop short of saying that he forgave Ferry, he kept going back to saying that "right is right and wrong is wrong". Doesn't sound like much forgiveness coming from Nique concerning Ferry. Kind of wonder that if there is a lot more animosity there that we don't know about. This just emphasizes the downside risk for us with potential animosity from free agents. It isn't just Nique and Carmelo that are going to have some lingering resentment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted October 3, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Thanks for sharing that! Good read. This remains disturbing: This just emphasizes the downside risk for us with potential animosity from free agents. It isn't just Nique and Carmelo that are going to have some lingering resentment. That may be true but Nique is a Gearon guy and I think Gearon has setup camp against Ferry. While Nique and Hank Aaron are heros of mine it doesn't mean that them coming in with another 8 headed ownership group will be anymore functional than what we've endured for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted October 3, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 That may be true but Nique is a Gearon guy and I think Gearon has setup camp against Ferry. While Nique and Hank Aaron are heros of mine it doesn't mean that them coming in with another 8 headed ownership group will be anymore functional than what we've endured for a decade. I have no interest in another 8 headed ownership group or any ownership structure where Gearon continues to be involved. That said, I think it is naive to think Ferry won't have some real backlash from free agents. We can say "oh, but Carmelo was just insulted by what Ferry said about him and he is a prima donna signed in NY so who cares" and we can say "but Nique is aligned with Gearon and resents Ferry for blocking him from getting a statue and getting involved in the basketball side of things" but it doesn't dismiss the backlash for me. I think we will just be doing that with the next person who snubs the Hawks because of this as well. Not everyone will write us off but even if it is just a premium we pay that could be significant since we are trying to build through FA by keeping money for a star (who will always have other options) and by scoring cost effective FA deals (which relies on getting players at or below market rate which means they will likely have similar options). If we have a problem selling people on the Ferry regime, that could be a significant issue and the fact that Nique is stopping one step short of bad mouthing Ferry in front of the press makes me wonder whether free agents pick up on those signals from him (either through the press or behind the scenes where he might not be as restrained). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted October 3, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 I have no interest in another 8 headed ownership group or any ownership structure where Gearon continues to be involved. That said, I think it is naive to think Ferry won't have some real backlash from free agents. We can say "oh, but Carmelo was just insulted by what Ferry said about him and he is a prima donna signed in NY so who cares" and we can say "but Nique is aligned with Gearon and resents Ferry for blocking him from getting a statue and getting involved in the basketball side of things" but it doesn't dismiss the backlash for me. I think we will just be doing that with the next person who snubs the Hawks because of this as well. Not everyone will write us off but even if it is just a premium we pay that could be significant since we are trying to build through FA by keeping money for a star (who will always have other options) and by scoring cost effective FA deals (which relies on getting players at or below market rate which means they will likely have similar options). If we have a problem selling people on the Ferry regime, that could be a significant issue and the fact that Nique is stopping one step short of bad mouthing Ferry in front of the press makes me wonder whether free agents pick up on those signals from him (either through the press or behind the scenes where he might not be as restrained). I honestly don't know. You may be completely right but we're all hawks all the time around here. The way the public and news cycles and especially interest in the hawks works around the country, I wouldn't be surprised that if Ferry came back now that most players and probably the vast majority of fans around the country won't even know or remember this happened by next summer. ESPN doesn't want to interrupt their Lebron coverage to talk about this anymore. Hell Kevin Martin didn't even know they traded Kevin Love until he got to camp. Do you think he's even heard about this story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 - Said that his favorite Hawk team to play on, were those mid-80s Hawks teams, and that the 80s era of NBA basketball was the best era. Described it as a MONSTER, because you were going up against a legendary player every night. Even bad teams were good enough to beat you on a nightly basis. Agreed. 80's were the best. Just some classic teams. I really looked forward to Nique going up against the Lakers, Celtics and Pistons back then but there was just something about 80's ball that made it special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted October 3, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Of course him saying Hawks - Spurs maybe is a hint that he thinks that Bud and this style is the way to go. That works for me. I care more about keeping Bud than Ferry but it also seems they work well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted October 3, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 I honestly don't know. You may be completely right but we're all hawks all the time around here. The way the public and news cycles and especially interest in the hawks works around the country, I wouldn't be surprised that if Ferry came back now that most players and probably the vast majority of fans around the country won't even know or remember this happened by next summer. ESPN doesn't want to interrupt their Lebron coverage to talk about this anymore. Hell Kevin Martin didn't even know they traded Kevin Love until he got to camp. Do you think he's even heard about this story? I don't know for sure. Only time will tell. My guess is that if/when Ferry returns, the media will kick this back up again for another round of smear the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSmith Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 That would be a fun Finals. Just imagine the TV ratings nimbers! I think you're on to something there. A lot of fans of teams, like Miami, who were burned by the Spurs would be pulling for the Hawks. There's also the "apprentice vs. the master" angle that would be pretty cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted October 3, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 That would be a fun Finals. Just imagine the TV ratings nimbers!I see what you did there. And I approve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Thanks for sharing that! Good read. This remains disturbing: This just emphasizes the downside risk for us with potential animosity from free agents. It isn't just Nique and Carmelo that are going to have some lingering resentment. It also potentially validates the SAS report from his sources. http://hawksquawk.net/community/topic/398630-stephen-a-smith-dominique-wilkins-wasnt-included-in-the-decision-making-process-as-much-as-before-ferry-arrived/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 I don't know for sure. Only time will tell. My guess is that if/when Ferry returns, the media will kick this back up again for another round of smear the Hawks. Exactly. That is why I want a resolution before or after the season. Midseason will tamper with what we are building this year entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 If we win like Nique says FAs won't be a problem. Don't ever remember him making such a bold statement. Guess the promotion has gone to his head. Re: DF...........unless the new owner is completely supportive of him and can 'protect' him from Gearon, he's a marked man. I think it would be impossible to do his job while always looking over his shoulder to see if he's going to get ambushed. Afraid it will be a lose-lose situation if he does come back. Or there could be a hell of a rift between old and new owners over him which would be more of the same in the drama around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Hell Kevin Martin didn't even know they traded Kevin Love until he got to camp. Do you think he's even heard about this story? Nope Kevin Martin said he was kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted October 3, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Exactly. That is why I want a resolution before or after the season. Midseason will tamper with what we are building this year entirely. It will be resolved after the sale process when the new majority owner is in place of the current Washington majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Exactly. That is why I want a resolution before or after the season. Midseason will tamper with what we are building this year entirely. The players are going to focus and play once they hit court. They don't care about ownership. Like Al said 'that's upstairs and they have no control over it." Just play ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhawksfan Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 The players are going to focus and play once they hit court. They don't care about ownership. Like Al said 'that's upstairs and they have no control over it." Just play ball. Yes, but the game isnt only played on the court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted October 6, 2014 Moderators Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Nope Kevin Martin said he was kidding Exactly. Who knows what to believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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