Premium Member Peoriabird Posted October 23, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) The more i watch DMC play on offense, the more i feel that he should not be apart of the starting 5. If his 3 point shot isn't falling, he offers very little else at the offensive end. His struggles may in part explain our slow starts in games which has become somewhat of a trend during the pre-season. Thabo Sefolosha is a much better fit with the starting line up not only because he is a better offensive player than DMC but a better rebounder also. He is probably a better defender too so I wouldn't mind on bit if Thabo was moved into the starting line up and averaged 30 minutes plus per game. He is too good a player to not get more than 20 minutes per game on this team. Just my 2 cents. Edited October 23, 2014 by Peoriabird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I haven't seen any pre-seaon games so I cannot say. I would at least like a 10-15 game regular season sample to look at this. Sometimes it's not about having your best players on the court at the same time. What if DMC is less effective off the bench? As a starter the defense doesn't focus on him when you have Teague, Kyle, Sap and Al who will score the majority of points. Thabo's scoring and defense may be needed more on the bench unit. Time will tell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted October 23, 2014 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 As a starter the defense doesn't focus on him when you have Teague, Kyle, Sap and Al who will score the majority of points. That's the problem...When defenses don't focus on him he either shoots too much or tries to do too much. Maybe its just pre-season but DMC was trying to drive the basket and initiate offense way too much for my taste! And by the way, we have plenty of offense coming of the bench in Scott, Mack/Schröder and Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 That's the problem...When defenses don't focus on him he either shoots too much or tries to do too much. Maybe its just pre-season but DMC was trying to drive the basket and initiate offense way too much for my taste! And by the way, we have plenty of offense coming of the bench in Scott, Mack/Schröder and Jenkins Like I said I haven't seen any games so I don't know. DMC driving the ball has disaster written all over it though (he said that was one area he would work on over the summer). All I need him to focus on is shoot when he is WIDE open, play defense and rebound. I would like to revisit this topic after 10-15 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 And by the way, we have plenty of offense coming of the bench in Scott, Mack/Schröder and Jenkins We have offense all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhawksfan Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Tough to have holes. One side of the court players create liability. You hope they're worth it on the other end. Better teams know how to take advantage of holes on either end of the court. Carroll/Thabo are not going to be very productive starters. The team ball has to cover some of our holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted October 23, 2014 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Carroll/Thabo are not going to be very productive starters. The team ball has to cover some of our holes I don't know what you mean by "Thabo will not be a productive starter"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Given the choice, I'd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 He was probably told to do that so he could be included more in the offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted October 23, 2014 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 He was probably told to do that so he could be included more in the offense If you are referring to DMC driving the ball, he is terrible at it and it makes the offense so much more inefficient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) If you are referring to DMC driving the ball, he is terrible at it and it makes the offense so much more inefficient!DMC has terrible handles - I was at a games last season vs the Kings. On 3 separate occasions DMC leading a fast break ended in disastrous results...oooiiiii. :-(. Edited October 23, 2014 by JayBirdHawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSET Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Tough to have holes. One side of the court players create liability. You hope they're worth it on the other end. Better teams know how to take advantage of holes on either end of the court. Carroll/Thabo are not going to be very productive starters. The team ball has to cover some of our holes Yeah I will go ahead and disagree strongly with you there. Thabo can be a very productive starter for us this season. Edited October 23, 2014 by JETSET 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Yeah I will go ahead and disagree strongly with you there. Thabo can be a very productive starter for us this season. Agreed - All we need from that duo is to be efficient offensively and do what they do best - play defense and grab a few rebounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Even if he starts, I don't see DMC playing 32 MPG this year with Baze, Thabo signed. I see more like 25 MPG from DMC, 20-25 for Thabo and 15-20 for Baze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I haven't seen any games, so I say DMC keeps his role. He has a year of tenure in the system over Thabo and hasn't done anything to lose his job. If Thabo shoots the three considerably better it might not take long for things to change. There won't be many utility 2s bringing his impact on the boards and steals. Edited October 23, 2014 by benhillboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Really hard to bench a guy who was a vital part of your team last year over 7 preseason games. Perhaps if you jerked on something more productive than your knee, we could avoid these conversations in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hopefully DMC is just working on practicing his drives, etc during the preseason before the games matter. Much better to try to get comfortable in a game like situation now rather than being forced into a situation in the future where he may need to do it without the experience. Do it now and get it out of the system, preseason is all about tinkering and working on things you need to improve on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted October 23, 2014 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I haven't seen any games, so I say DMC keeps his role. He has a year of tenure in the system over Thabo and hasn't done anything to lose his job. If Thabo shoots the three considerably better it might not take long for things to change. There won't be many utility 2s bringing his impact on the boards and steals. DMC Pre-season shooting percentages: 3 point field goals - 5 out of 21 for 24% overall shooting percentage - 18 out of 48 for 38% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted October 23, 2014 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Really hard to bench a guy who was a vital part of your team last year over 7 preseason games. Perhaps if you jerked on something more productive than your knee, we could avoid these conversations in the future? 1st of all DMC didn't even play in the 1st pre-season game. Secondly, we won 38 games last year so no one is untouchable! The facts are that DMC is a very limited player offensively and if we could upgrade the position with a better offensive player who is a better rebounder and might be a better defender then why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 That's the problem...When defenses don't focus on him he either shoots too much or tries to do too much. Maybe its just pre-season but DMC was trying to drive the basket and initiate offense way too much for my taste! And by the way, we have plenty of offense coming of the bench in Scott, Mack/Schröder and Jenkins When did Schröder become a offensive player? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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