atlhawks1 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Reminds me of the 100 " get rid of julio jones " threads on falcon message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Honestly he does not deserve that much heat. Al has never been that guy and will never be that guy. He tis what he tis. Al is a stand-still shooter. He can knock down good looks but don't ever expect him to be that guy that can put the team on his back. It depends on what you expect. Offensively, he will never be that guy but he does so much for use and like Lebron, you can use him to hide others weaknesses. Not to Lebron level due to talent but nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted May 27, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I love Al but he went out like a chump, sorry. At least give the Hawks an 'average' performance in the biggest game of the season. But he may have been injured though. He had to be injured because that wasn't like Al at all. Nabisco Soft Chocolate Chip Cookies comes to mind when I think about last night's performance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 What lies? That he wasn't our best player for the entire playoffs? He wasn't. That goes to DMC fact. Al had 3 memorable games this playoffs. 1 against Nets, 1 against Wiz and last nights game against Cavs for all the wrong reasons. No lies just facting. He had plenty of good games in the playoffs especially impact wise. He had some clunkers. This wasn't the worst, the worst was game 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted May 27, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Baseless? Two points in an elimination game? Really? Tito sprinkled some Ferry (non pun intended) dust on y'all foreheads or something. So your basing Al's future with the Hawks on one bad game when he has given us nearly a decade of excellent play and was really the only player outside of Demarre that showed heart throughout the first two rounds? Korver, Millsap, and Schröder were ice cold the last two weeks, Teague has been inconsistent, and the bench didn't perform... And you want to blame Horford for not showing up in one game? Demarre was the only other guy that seemed to give a damn. The nail was in the coffin before tip-off in Game 4 and there is a reason why no team in NBA history has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit to win a series. It's cause by that point, you are so mentally and physically drained and defeated that climbing an ant mound feels like Everest. I don't blame them for packing it in. We couldn't hit a shot all series and their bigs dominated both ends of the floor and Horford is expected to just flip a switch and make it happen? What was Horford suppose to do? What can Horford do about 3 pointers not falling, Korver basically not being there offensively, our bench giving us nothing, and Millsap getting thrown around in the paint like clothes in a dryer? Is he supposed to throw the team on his back in the last game of the season and will a triple-double performance when that goes against the philosophy Bud has instilled the last two seasons? We are a team that relies on a team effort, not the effort of one player. He deserves criticism as does every player and coach on the roster, but he doesn't deserve to be called a sucker and a fraud when he gave our team so much the last 7 seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartVolt Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 That is a piss poor stat sheet. Wow! Hopefully they carry this embarrassment thru the whole off season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthepureshooter Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 So your basing Al's future with the Hawks on one bad game when he has given us nearly a decade of excellent play and was really the only player outside of Demarre that showed heart throughout the first two rounds? Korver, Millsap, and Schröder were ice cold the last two weeks, Teague has been inconsistent, and the bench didn't perform... And you want to blame Horford for not showing up in one game? Demarre was the only other guy that seemed to give a damn. The nail was in the coffin before tip-off in Game 4 and there is a reason why no team in NBA history has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit to win a series. It's cause by that point, you are so mentally and physically drained and defeated that climbing an ant mound feels like Everest. I don't blame them for packing it in. We couldn't hit a shot all series and their bigs dominated both ends of the floor and Horford is expected to just flip a switch and make it happen? What was Horford suppose to do? What can Horford do about 3 pointers not falling, Korver basically not being there offensively, our bench giving us nothing, and Millsap getting thrown around in the paint like clothes in a dryer? Is he supposed to throw the team on his back in the last game of the season and will a triple-double performance when that goes against the philosophy Bud has instilled the last two seasons? We are a team that relies on a team effort, not the effort of one player. He deserves criticism as does every player and coach on the roster, but he doesn't deserve to be called a sucker and a fraud when he gave our team so much the last 7 seasons. No I'm basing it off of his lackluster performance in a win or go home playoff game. He literally put up 2 damn points. Muscala put up more than that in just 3 minutes and 30 seconds. And it was against Timofey Mozgov. Hand down.. Man down.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 And that's fine just like I don't agree with you that Al was our best player this post season and just lije I dont agree with you that he's better that Karl Malone. Oh yes, I did. Lol. Damn. I forgot he said that. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 27, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Damn. I forgot he said that. Haha. Over and over again. Al just finished his age 28 playoffs this year at 14.4 ppg, .525 TS%, 8.6 rpg, 3.7 apg, 0.8 spg, 1.4 bpg Karl Malone at age 28 put up playoff numbers of 29.1 ppg, .618 TS%, 11.3 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.4 spg, 1.2 bpg So you can see why supes calls out Karl's inferior playoff numbers -- especially with the inferior shooting efficiency that supes focused on. It is just an unfair comparison to Al. Every year this debate creeps up and Karl's same age numbers destroy Al's and there is some excuse for not only why Karl's numbers are meaningless but why Al is clearly better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 So your basing Al's future with the Hawks on one bad game when he has given us nearly a decade of excellent play and was really the only player outside of Demarre that showed heart throughout the first two rounds? Korver, Millsap, and Schröder were ice cold the last two weeks, Teague has been inconsistent, and the bench didn't perform... And you want to blame Horford for not showing up in one game? Demarre was the only other guy that seemed to give a damn. The nail was in the coffin before tip-off in Game 4 and there is a reason why no team in NBA history has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit to win a series. It's cause by that point, you are so mentally and physically drained and defeated that climbing an ant mound feels like Everest. I don't blame them for packing it in. We couldn't hit a shot all series and their bigs dominated both ends of the floor and Horford is expected to just flip a switch and make it happen? What was Horford suppose to do? What can Horford do about 3 pointers not falling, Korver basically not being there offensively, our bench giving us nothing, and Millsap getting thrown around in the paint like clothes in a dryer? Is he supposed to throw the team on his back in the last game of the season and will a triple-double performance when that goes against the philosophy Bud has instilled the last two seasons? We are a team that relies on a team effort, not the effort of one player. He deserves criticism as does every player and coach on the roster, but he doesn't deserve to be called a sucker and a fraud when he gave our team so much the last 7 seasons. And yet, the entire fan base and media expected Jeff Teague to do all of the above. And had he came up with 2 points and 3 assists in a closeout game, 70% of this fan base would've dropped a nuclear bomb on this site. They not only would've ripped Teague to shreads, they'd be calling for him to be traded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcatic1 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) And yet, the entire fan base and media expected Jeff Teague to do all of the above. And had he came up with 2 points and 3 assists in a closeout game, 70% of this fan base would've dropped a nuclear bomb on this site. They not only would've ripped Teague to shreads, they'd be calling for him to be traded. Exactly There was one play last night that told me Al had packed it in. He was in position to grab a rebound but just watched it. Then instead of chasing it down he kinda just stood there. An injured DMC chased it down and threw it back in before it went out of bounds. It was no type of hustle or effort from Al. Edited May 27, 2015 by Sarcatic1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyMo Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 horford is a complementary piece at best. he will never be a go-to guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Over and over again. Al just finished his age 28 playoffs this year at 14.4 ppg, .525 TS%, 8.6 rpg, 3.7 apg, 0.8 spg, 1.4 bpg Karl Malone at age 28 put up playoff numbers of 29.1 ppg, .618 TS%, 11.3 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.4 spg, 1.2 bpg So you can see why supes calls out Karl's inferior playoff numbers -- especially with the inferior shooting efficiency that supes focused on. It is just an unfair comparison to Al. Every year this debate creeps up and Karl's same age numbers destroy Al's and there is some excuse for not only why Karl's numbers are meaningless but why Al is clearly better. TS involves FT's, there is no way in hell Horford will ever see Malone in that. Move Horford to PF. Look at pace, look at assists, look at defense and the tape and it's close. We know Malone will dominate PPG. Look at the pace, look at the position. Malone played next to a 7'2 and 7'4 center. Al is next to a 6'7 undersized PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 27, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 TS involves FT's, there is no way in hell Horford will ever see Malone in that. Malone also had the better FG%. Also, FT's still count in the NBA and they are the single most efficient way of scoring. Nobody shoots an efg% of >80%. Lots of guys shoot better than 80% from the line. Just.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'm not pleased with his performance. Still he's playing out of position so I'm not going to overlook that fact either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Malone also had the better FG%. Also, FT's still count in the NBA and they are the single most efficient way of scoring. Nobody shoots an efg% of >80%. Lots of guys shoot better than 80% from the line. Just.... Damn you @AHF now I'm gonna have that song stuck in my head the rest of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Damn you @AHF now I'm gonna have that song stuck in my head the rest of the day. Maybe next time you should just ... go away and slam the dooooor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Maybe next time you should just ... go away and slam the dooooor! Nooooooooooooooooo, stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Not the Frozen song. NOT THE FROZEN SONG..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Nooooooooooooooooo, stop. Hey, I'm not going anywhere. Here I stand and here I'll staaaaay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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