Wurider05 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 The east got stronger and we didn't. A losing record will not get you into the playoffs this year. Bud and co. are too cool for school and too arrogant. We have been figured out and something needs to change. They are so arrogant that they can't even see the Korver is done as a starter. We are using him as a scorer instead of a shooter. I say let's start Teague-Bazemore-Stef-Sap-Horf. We can win ugly with the lineup but we can win. We need to give Sap the greenlight. We are not making trades and are pissing away draft picks. I like Bud, but that Spurs system looks damn good with Duncan, Leonard, Parker, Ginobili and and now Aldridge running it. Sap, Bazemore, and Dennis are the only guys that are keepers in my opinion. Sap is the best power forward in the east. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 We're also 3 games out of 1st place so it's more 'tweak' time than panic time. Agree the 'too cool for school' crap needs to stop and I mean stop now. Time to make some guys uncomfortable. Namely Al/Teague/Korver. They don't fear the bench so why play hard? If Kyle's still hurt, sit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kg01 said: its more 'tweak' time than panic time. Not when you are on a 35 win pace over a full season (this is by calculating the pace now and ignoring the start and adding it onto the start). That'd put you out of the playoffs even in a mediocre Eastern Conference. Edited December 15, 2015 by Lurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiqueDaLegend Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 We are back to the abyss of being not good enough to win it all but not bad enough to actually benefit from it Yay mediocrity, it was a good one year without you but welcome back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 37 minutes ago, Lurker said: Not when you are on a 35 win pace over a full season (this is by calculating the pace now and ignoring the start and adding it onto the start). That'd put you out of the playoffs even in a mediocre Eastern Conference. What does this even mean in a league where one trade/injury or any number of other factors can elevate or torpedo a team's season? Geez, Samantha Hinkie over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDog90 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 1 hour ago, kg01 said: We're also 3 games out of 1st place so it's more 'tweak' time than panic time. Agree the 'too cool for school' crap needs to stop and I mean stop now. Time to make some guys uncomfortable. Namely Al/Teague/Korver. They don't fear the bench so why play hard? If Kyle's still hurt, sit him. True. I see Bud has no problem going off on Teague but love to see him hold Al and Korver accountable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Yall need to chill. In the words of Aaron the idiot Rodgers...R-E-L-A-X (he beat my team on a bs last second Hail Mary...ill be bitter for 3-5 years)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiqueDaLegend Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Just now, Spud2Nique said: Yall need to chill. In the words of Aaron the idiot Rodgers...R-E-L-A-X (he beat my team on a bs last second Hail Mary...ill be bitter for 3-5 years)... Why? Do you think we are going to go on a run like last year? Cuz if not I don't see why we shouldn't be of concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 1 minute ago, HorfordFTW said: Why? Do you think we are going to go on a run like last year? Cuz if not I don't see why we shouldn't be of concern. I don't think we pull off an undefeated month or anything, but we have a veteran group that will respond. We are only 3 games out of 1st place. I still think we end up as the 2nd or 3rd best in east. I just think we will start winning games when it counts most after the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUhawksfan Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 2 hours ago, Wurider05 said: The east got stronger and we didn't. A losing record will not get you into the playoffs this year. Bud and co. are too cool for school and too arrogant. We have been figured out and something needs to change. They are so arrogant that they can't even see the Korver is done as a starter. We are using him as a scorer instead of a shooter. I say let's start Teague-Bazemore-Stef-Sap-Horf. We can win ugly with the lineup but we can win. We need to give Sap the greenlight. We are not making trades and are pissing away draft picks. I like Bud, but that Spurs system looks damn good with Duncan, Leonard, Parker, Ginobili and and now Aldridge running it. Sap, Bazemore, and Dennis are the only guys that are keepers in my opinion. Sap is the best power forward in the east. I do like that lineup idea. Korver needs to be a 20 min. a night guy at this point until he proves he is back to last seasons form (if he does ever get to that point). Give Edy 5-10 minutes of Al's until he proves he has that hunger or maybe Edy will surprise us and keep those minutes. Dude is in a contract year, he shouldn't be coasting like this. As for Teague, I think he's just in a mini slump and will break out of it. Unfortunately Dennis hasn't done much to warrant more minutes so we're kind of in a tough spot here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted December 15, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 What happened to those guaranteed 60 win season predictions? Some of us predicted in the 40s were hammered lol. I saw in the playoffs we needed changes in the offseason. We traded a first round pick for a guy in the d-league lmbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnbayou Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 44 minutes ago, AUhawksfan said: I do like that lineup idea. Korver needs to be a 20 min. a night guy at this point until he proves he is back to last seasons form (if he does ever get to that point). Give Edy 5-10 minutes of Al's until he proves he has that hunger or maybe Edy will surprise us and keep those minutes. Dude is in a contract year, he shouldn't be coasting like this. As for Teague, I think he's just in a mini slump and will break out of it. Unfortunately Dennis hasn't done much to warrant more minutes so we're kind of in a tough spot here. Horford knows he'll get paid big after this season, pretty much doesn't matter a lot how he plays. So he's simply trying not to get hurt. We must trade him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 5 minutes ago, mtnbayou said: Horford knows he'll get paid big after this season, pretty much doesn't matter a lot how he plays. So he's simply trying not to get hurt. We must trade him. This is absolutely true and it's the single worst thing possible for Hawk fans. The bad season will be blamed on, "oh well the Hawks weren't gonna win 60 again , blah, blah, blah ... but Horford is a 2-time all-star" or w/e. It won't damage his rep AT ALL and he knows it. If he leaves this offseason he's Danny Manning status IMEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted December 15, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 36 minutes ago, kg01 said: This is absolutely true and it's the single worst thing possible for Hawk fans. The bad season will be blamed on, "oh well the Hawks weren't gonna win 60 again , blah, blah, blah ... but Horford is a 2-time all-star" or w/e. It won't damage his rep AT ALL and he knows it. If he leaves this offseason he's Danny Manning status IMEO. I knew this Horford thing was coming... I brought it up a couple of years ago and I was stoned and tossed out of the village. lol Of course that was before last year's amazing run, but here we are in this funk...and I'm honestly just confused. I have no idea how I feel about the team right now...and it doesn't help that I'm missing a ton of games this year with this new work schedule. I think I'm just gonna sit on the fence until it's clear to me which direction our season is headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiqueDaLegend Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I wish I could change my username cuz its definitely a lie now.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 7 minutes ago, HorfordFTW said: I wish I could change my username cuz its definitely a lie now.. Oh, I mean ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted December 15, 2015 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Can't believe I'm saying but we need to bench Al for a game or two to get his ass back in line. He's barely averaging 7 boards a game. That is completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted December 15, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 33 minutes ago, HorfordFTW said: I wish I could change my username cuz its definitely a lie now.. I wouldn't sweat it. He'll always be the guy who put us in the ECF, who punk'd paul pierce, who frankly was the guy who arrived and put us in the playoffs. So yeah i'll be disappointed if he doesn't start playing better but i'll never forget what he did for the franchise. I mean Josh Smith doesn't look like a borderline all-star if he's not playing next to Horford. I'm cautiously optimistic he'll return to form. He's always been a team guy and when the team is misfiring he doesn't look so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 16, 2015 Moderators Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 3 hours ago, Sothron said: Can't believe I'm saying but we need to bench Al for a game or two to get his ass back in line. He's barely averaging 7 boards a game. That is completely unacceptable. Maybe we can trade him for Rondo after his current scandal. Rondo averages 6.9 rpg to Horford's 7.2 rpg but he hits the defensive boards harder with 5.5 drpg to Horford's 5.1 drpg so at least we'd have a defensive rebounding upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 One week later at 18-12 the Hawks are #3 in the East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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