Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 It's funny I left for 2 hours and I was on page 15 of this thread...now I read the rest until page 34....I want my 20 minutes back. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Vol4ever said: This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Once again, it's not about cap room this time. It was last year with Carroll and Millsap, not this time. In fact I think Marc Stein worded his tweet wrong, I think they're shopping the picks to try to "impress Al Horford" (which I don't like at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescout5 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hotlanta1981 said: Hawks management must feel otherwise. The hawks will be lucky to win 40 games this year. Until Hawks management actually brings in some difference makers then they will continue to be a front office of mediocrity.I am really tired of the shell games this front office plays.If getting swept by the Cavs rge last 2 seasons in embarrassing fashion doesn't deserve change then nothing will. Edited June 22, 2016 by thescout5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, thescout5 said: Hawks always have to clear cap space while the Cavs and Warriors always find ways to keep or add new quality players what's wrong with this picture.Hawks front office doesn't measure up. Sigh, this bullshit again. what big name free agent has Cleveland signed besides LBJ -Rhichard Jefferson?. all the big money contracts they gave to Love, Irving, Thompson, Shumpert, etc - they WERE CLEVELAND'S OWN PLAYERS which thye exceed the cap to resign, they DID NOT NEED to clear any capspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Wait, so we are just throwing away both our picks for cap space to re-sign Horford? So we improve our team by letting Teague go and no more moves? Vintage Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, thescout5 said: Until Hawks management actually brings in some difference makers then they will continue to be a front office of mediocrity.I am really rired of the shell games this front office plays.If getting swept by the Cavs rge last 2 seasons in embarrassing fashion doesn't deserve change then nothing will. Ain't about the front office right NOW my man. You need to see the posts that @JayBirdHawk made about how teams can manipulate their cap into an endless one if they sign their player to more than a two year deal. Tony even said he'll exceed cap if needed, he's just not going past luxury tax. Edited June 22, 2016 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmooooove Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) As someone else mentioned in this thread already, how do we give away an All-Star caliber PG for the TWELFTH PICK!!!! Last season we had the FIFTEENTH PICK.... and got a scrub backup SG. According to this trade, if only we had the 12th pick last year we could have gotten ourselves a starting-caliber player. I just don't get it. This trade is a joke, especially if all they do is resign Horford and Baze. They HAVE TO add some new talent to this team or else this trade will go down as a complete fleecing. Edited June 22, 2016 by JSmooooove 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescout5 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Just now, Lurker said: Ain't about the front office right NOW my man. You need to see the posts that @JayBirdHawk made about how teams can manipulate their cap into an endless one if they sign their player to more than a two year deal. Maybe the Hawks need to do the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 The last player signed by any said team is telling. I really like Al but in the East only one last home team player signing seems to count. He is a Cav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescout5 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hawks always seem to be behind the 8 ball with their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cam1218 Posted June 22, 2016 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 As a lot of people are saying, the trade isn't just for the 12th pick. We also create flexibility to add players via trade or free agency. If we ended up trading Teague for the 12th pick and don't use the cap space we gained on anything useful then it's a bad trade. This is just one of these deals we are going to have to wait and see what happens during the off-season before we can judge if it is good or bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Windhorst=idiot http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=16427428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 minute ago, RWF said: Marc Stein worded it wrong. It's not that, it's they're shopping the picks to try to "impress" Al Horford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, thescout5 said: Maybe the Hawks need to do the same thing? I need you to explain to me how you think they can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Hope we are packaging the picks to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Just now, cam1218 said: As a lot of people are saying, the trade isn't just for the 12th pick. We also create flexibility to add players via trade or free agency. If we ended up trading Teague for the 12th pick and don't use the cap space we gained on anything useful then it's a bad trade. This is just one of these deals we are going to have to wait and see what happens during the off-season before we can judge if it is good or bad. Free agents have not been breaking down our doors to come here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmooooove Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cam1218 said: As a lot of people are saying, the trade isn't just for the 12th pick. We also create flexibility to add players via trade or free agency. If we ended up trading Teague for the 12th pick and don't use the cap space we gained on anything useful then it's a bad trade. This is just one of these deals we are going to have to wait and see what happens during the off-season before we can judge if it is good or bad. Who cares about cap space when over half the league has millions and millions to spend this offseason. Out of all of the seasons to try to clear cap space... this is the one season where it really doesn't mean SH!T!! And like Watchman said, it's not like big time free agents ever come to Atlanta. We'll end up maxing Barnes or some other stupid crap. Edited June 22, 2016 by JSmooooove 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescout5 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Sigh, this bullshit again. what big name free agent has Cleveland signed besides LBJ -Rhichard Jefferson?. all the big money contracts they gave to Love, Irving, Thompson, Shumpert, etc - they WERE CLEVELAND'S OWN PLAYERS which thye exceed the cap to resign, they DID NOT NEED to clear any capspace. True the Cadavaliers are playing within the system.They sign good players below market because of Bron.The Warriors and Okc just outdraft most teams.The Hawks need to be among the leaders in the draft not just throw away picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 minute ago, JSmooooove said: Who cares about cap space when over half the league has millions and millions to spend this offseason. Out of all of the seasons to try to clear cap space... this is the one season where it really doesn't mean SH!T!! Very true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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