Admin capstone21 Posted July 3, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, Spud2Nique said: Honestly I'm not just saying this because we didn't sign him, but for a big man, Horford was soft as hell and that was one of the reasons we kept getting killed by the Cavs. I loved Horford in his first 6 or so years, the last 3 he's been scared of getting hurt and an all around wuss. Most so called experts say his game will transition well into his 30's, I think he might decline and be a complete gimp in 2 years. We will move on without him, I'm more upset we didn't get anything in return for him than him leaving. Well we got a guy who is more injury prone, can't hit free throws, can't hit a jumper or pass very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted July 3, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 15 minutes ago, wolvetigers said: The Market dictates the $$$. ...3 teams actually offered him 4yr/ 72million....So it's not like Hawks Management pulled a number out of a Hat. So we wish him well, let the other team overpay him for his contribution and wish him well ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Just now, capstone21 said: Well we got a guy who is more injury prone, can't hit free throws, can't hit a jumper or pass very well That could be true, but we also won't get rocked in the rebounding numbers by every team every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Danny Ferry would have found someone off the trash heap. Another JYD, another Bazemore. You don't give 70 million to a guy like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 minute ago, gsuteke said: Bazemore is an average NBA player at best. You keep waiving the "superfan" card on everyone who calls it like it is I'm not waving shit, I'm asking for your alternate plan - quite simple actually. But you have offered nothing worth debating, so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted July 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Just now, JayBirdHawk said: I'm not waving shit, I'm asking for your alternate plan - quite simple actually. But you have offered nothing worth debating, so..... You're cute. That's not worth debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 16 minutes ago, capstone21 said: We could have gone after Aaron Affalo for the 12 he signed or someone like Wesley Johnson ... He might not be as good as Baz but it would probably only would have been for about 6 million instead of 17.5 ... and who knows what he could have done in our system ... Probably the same production and impact as Baz or DMC. A plan, an alternate plan offered. Thank you. Just now, gsuteke said: You're cute. That's not worth debating. Oh, I know I'm cute - definitely no debating that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 I've always liked afflalo, but that man is becoming the NBAs biggest journeyman. Somethings up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljonesbro Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, capstone21 said: So we wish him well, let the other team overpay him for his contribution and wish him well ... What do you people not understand? Its NOT an overpay. Look at the market. You will NOT land ANYONE on Bazemore's level for less anymore. Are you just that unaware of what's going on in the NBA right now? I just can't fathom how you think that's overpaying someone in today's market.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4wkfan Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, gsuteke said: You're cute. That's not worth debating. In all honesty. You complain about what we are doing. You want horford and no howard. So fine. Shro /Paul / Horford are locked in. Who do we get to improve our team? Seriously. If you are going to bitch ,bring a reasonable idea to the table for us to discuss. I'm not thrilles at this point, but I'll wait it out until all the dust settles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, atljonesbro said: What do you people not understand? Its NOT an overpay. Look at the market. You will NOT land ANYONE on Bazemore's level for less anymore. Are you just that unaware of what's going on in the NBA right now? I just can't fathom how you think that's overpaying someone in today's market.. Evan Freaking Turner nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudBall Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 I wouldn't say it was a overpay, but I agree we could have got comparable production cheaper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4wkfan Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Just now, ISO said: I wouldn't say it was a overpay, but I agree we could have got comparable production cheaper... Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cam1218 Posted July 3, 2016 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 I think Baze has more growth in his game. He actually wants to be here too--that means a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted July 3, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 17 minutes ago, atljonesbro said: What do you people not understand? Its NOT an overpay. Look at the market. You will NOT land ANYONE on Bazemore's level for less anymore. Are you just that unaware of what's going on in the NBA right now? I just can't fathom how you think that's overpaying someone in today's market.. I know exactly what is going on and we have a number of holes and now have no money to try fill them because we vastly overpaid for Baz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4wkfan Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 So who could we get to play the 2/3 spot that would not be overpaid this offseason. Yeah. Baze is overpaid. Everyone is We got Baze for less than Deng. And go check the evan turner contract just for the hell of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngc7 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 17 is nothing in this market. Its like 8-10 on the old cap. Stop whining about Baze people. Affalo is pure garbage. In a few years Baze contract will be one of the cheapest on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWF Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 The Good: 1. Baze wants to be a Hawk. 2. He knows how we play. 3. Lesser players got paid as much as Baze. The Bad: 1. 70 mil for 11 PPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 hour ago, gsuteke said: Bazemore is an average NBA player at best. You keep waiving the "superfan" card on everyone who calls it like it is I guess he's an average NBA player that had 3 teams offer him more money than we signed him for. 33 minutes ago, capstone21 said: we vastly overpaid for Baz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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