DocWilkins Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 How worried are you as a Hawks fan about Dennis and his play? Should we be expecting erratic play? Should we expect more? Does he shoot too much? Is he playing just fine? I will say I am about a 6 on the concern level. Again flashes of brilliance but he is so inconsistent...Drive me crazy! What say you Hawks Fans? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 An absolute roller coaster right now but its a really long season so we'll really see what he has in the playoffs. I do fully expect us to be there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 This is at the least of my concerns. I'm more concerned about how awful Kent and Kyle have been. Enough. With. This. Idea. That. Kent. Bazemore. Is. Good. Against. Big. Small. Forwards. Enough! ENOUGH! He sucks against them. Kent or Kyle need to go to the bench immediately. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted November 20, 2016 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, DocWilkins said: How worried are you as a Hawks fan about Dennis and his play? Should we be expecting erratic play? Should we expect more? Does he shoot too much? Is he playing just fine? I will say I am about a 6 on the concern level. Again flashes of brilliance but he is so inconsistent...Drive me crazy! What say you Hawks Fans? He will be ok. He's going to have ups and downs. Hopefully he responds well and comes back better. If he sulks or pouts he's done. But I think he has enough confidence in himself to bounce back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWilkins Posted November 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Lurker said: This is at the least of my concerns. I'm more concerned about how awful Kent and Kyle have been. Enough. With. This. Idea. That. Kent. Bazemore. Is. Good. Against. Big. Small. Forwards. Enough! ENOUGH! He sucks against them. Kent or Kyle need to go to the bench immediately. I think Kent and Kyle are giving us exactly what they always have. I said 100 times last year that Kent is not a starting small forward and Kyle is a specialist that starts due to no real talent at the 2. Hardaway should be starting in Kyle's spot and Baze should have never been paid as much as we gave him. Nice guy or not. 1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said: Zero. Is that you Dennis? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hawkman said: He will be ok. He's going to have ups and downs. Hopefully he responds well and comes back better. If he sulks or pouts he's done. But I think he has enough confidence in himself to bounce back. With a young player, you're going to have ups and downs. The young player has to come back better from the down periods to be a good player. Edited November 20, 2016 by Lurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenHawking Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 First season as a starter what do you expect? Idk if it's right from Bud to keep him completely out of the game if things don't work out for one night. I mean as you know Dennis is all about confidence. I'm not sure if he can handle such coach decisions well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted November 20, 2016 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, StephenHawking said: First season as a starter what do you expect? Idk if it's right from Bud to keep him completely out of the game if things don't work out for one night. I mean as you know Dennis is all about confidence. I'm not sure if he can handle such coach decisions well. You know Bud is a no nonsense coach when it comes to how he wants things run. This is a tough lesson but it's exactly what Pop would have done. Heck, Pop benched his entire starting lineup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Bud is a student of the right mindset in coaching whether politically correct or not. Pops will end up a legend and not because he is a touchy feely coach. Lets move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvell Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Dennis is terrible and will never be a good starter. Good on the ball defense, poor team defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS17Fanboy Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Last years he played most of the time along Al Horford and they clicked really well. Whenever plays with Korver/Bench didnt pan out their two-man game usualy salvaged the possession. He played a bit less alongside Millsap. So what we have is a group of starters, of whom 4 are spescialist type players, who really need to work things out. And thats not easy, even for pro's. You can also hear this from interviews from Bud or the round bald guy, stating things like trying to involve new plays each game. Like those weaves towards the post Dennis got stuck up in with his butt sticking out proteceting the ball. The plan obviously is to get Howard much more involved in the offense than he has been in the recent past. And so this often doesnt work out as well as planned and you get Howard making bad shots as well. We did win allot of games and the talent-level of the starters has allot to do with that, so that isnt the issue. Im however worried about seeing little progress, but a bit of regress. But I guess thats also part of what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNorthCydeRises Posted November 21, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 Dennis simply has to make the transition from being a guy looking for his own shot, to making others around him better. Teague had these same issues as a first year starter. Dennis had a horrible game tonight. Look for him to be stellar on Tuesday night. Dennis, outside of the turnovers, has been pretty good this season overall. If most Hawks fans had their way, Tim Hardaway Jr would've been traded or cut before opening night, because of his erratic play in the preseason. So anyone expecting Dennis to have a seamless transition from bench gunner to playmaking starter, is placing too high of expectations on him. Talk to me in January about if I should be worried about Dennis. Not in November. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 He's like Josh Smith. There will be great games, there will be terrible games. I'm not sure you can win championships with guys like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Somebody needs to grab Dennis by the ears and say, "penetrate, penetrate, penetrate until they are forced to lay off of you". It isn't how much he shoots that's killing me, it is how much he is forcing the shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 John Stockton made a living in the pick n roll. With Dennis' speed, it should be easier than a Kardashian. Pick, push hard towards the rim, make a decision. Every time I see Dennis try to get fancy with the hard push right, pull up jumper inside the 3 point line I want to punch my television. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) When Dennis gives his detractors fuel boy it's a 18-wheel big rig. He's still fairly raw. But he'll bounce back. Edited November 21, 2016 by benhillboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS17Fanboy Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) vor 5 Stunden, thecampster sagte: Somebody needs to grab Dennis by the ears and say, "penetrate, penetrate, penetrate until they are forced to lay off of you". It isn't how much he shoots that's killing me, it is how much he is forcing the shot. The reason he forces those are exactly to pentrate more effectively. I heard away announcers talking about his "improved shooting, also from 3", so thats really what you want for the long haul: people starting to respect your shooting pre-game already or early in the game to set the tone. As such that threath for defenses makes penetrating easier. However he missed wide open 3's early in the game last 2, so I guess that upset him, forcing the issue later on and made penetrating allot more difficult. In such games he just needs to relax and just get others involved and wait for the moments. That being said, I think the issue is not "unwillingness" but experience and level-headedness. Sometimes you can clearly see this being an issue, like that deep covered 3 he shot early in the clock, because guys didnt move like he wanted to. He looses his cool to often and starts being a negative nancy. Edited November 21, 2016 by DS17Fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted November 21, 2016 Moderators Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 He'll be fine. Thank god for Delaney though. Dennis will be seriously balling by February. the Sap/Howard tandem is still out of sync and Korver / Baze aren't really contributing consistently on offense. Bud will get it working for sure and when he does Dennis will shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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