GameTime Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Or he is retiring/getting traded? I think he is a huge upgrade over Delaney. Highlights from just last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamarHampton Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 No clue. At this point it's about time to break out that Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif because it seems like something crazy is about to go down so I wouldn't get too comfortable with anybody on the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted January 6, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm reading he's retired for all intense and porpoises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Mo Williams has been out all year. He had surgery without the Cavs consent then refused a buy out. Quote "Nobody and I repeat nobody actually gave a damn about my health but me," Williams wrote as a caption on his Instagram post showing him in a hospital gown with an IV hooked up to his right arm. Both the Cavaliers' team physician, Dr. Richard Parker, and another doctor consulted for a second opinion concluded that Williams' knee did not require surgery, a league source told ESPN. Williams sought a third opinion on his own, which led to Wednesday's procedure, said the source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, GameTime said: Or he is retiring/getting traded? I think he is a huge upgrade over Delaney. Highlights from just last year Signing him to a 4 year max contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Think he's too hurt and too old to even be our new Speedy Claxton burden to bear. As said earlier he had surgery without consent and was not happy about it. This article below states he has plans to retire. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17780235/mo-williams-surgery-seems-rip-cleveland-cavaliers-instagram-post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 17 hours ago, LamarHampton said: No clue. At this point it's about time to break out that Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif because it seems like something crazy is about to go down so I wouldn't get too comfortable with anybody on the roster. I agree... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Mo would rather retire than play for the Hawks? There is zero reason to make a trade involving Mo Williams. This front office is a disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Surely Mo was only involved to help facilitate the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Use your heads. Mo and Dun won't be Hawks for long, if at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, hazer said: Use your heads. Mo and Dun won't be Hawks for long, if at all. Imagine we are desperately trying to find a sucker for Dunleavey right now but don't know who the heck would bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andpau Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Mo - 2,2 M. Dun - 5 M. Both are not going to play any game with Atlanta.. Hope they find someone to pay them..Or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Mo isn't playing at all this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 42 minutes ago, andpau said: Mo - 2,2 M. Dun - 5 M. Both are not going to play any game with Atlanta.. Hope they find someone to pay them..Or am I missing something? Then why take on their salaries? I am not well versed in NBA trades, but does it follow the idea in the NFL that trade for the contract and the player comes with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LamarHampton Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Think we will stretch Mo's contract? That possible? that would be next to no impact over the next three years or however long we can stretch it out over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andpau Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 vor 26 Minuten, Alex sagte: Then why take on their salaries? I am not well versed in NBA trades, but does it follow the idea in the NFL that trade for the contract and the player comes with? My fault. Just realised that they have 1y contracts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red2play Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 47 minutes ago, Alex said: Then why take on their salaries? I am not well versed in NBA trades, but does it follow the idea in the NFL that trade for the contract and the player comes with? 1 hour ago, andpau said: Mo - 2,2 M. Dun - 5 M. Both are not going to play any game with Atlanta.. Hope they find someone to pay them..Or am I missing something? They didn't have the cap space to include Kover's 5.5 mi, so we took on some of their cap space. I believe Bud is looking at the 2019 or 2020 picks when LJ is 37 and won't win anymore championships. Stacking up picks so that we can be competitive after LJ retires is a smart thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Mo Williams = trade filler for the deadline (as we need to add future salary) or an expiring after the season ends. Assuming Millsap opts out, this gives the Hawks 42 million going into the off-season with this current roster. Schröder/Delaney Bazemore/Hardaway/Bembry Prince/Dunleavy None Howard +42 million in cap space and 10 draft picks in the next 3 years. 2017 - 1 -1st round pick / 2 - 2nd round picks 2018 - 2 -1st round picks / 1 - 2nd round pick 2019 - 2 - 1st round picks / 2 - 2nd round picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 So if I had to guess, we are going to package the future Minny/Cav picks for a 10-20 pick in the upcoming 2017 draft. That would give us 2 1st round picks this coming draft (3 picks total) to fill 3 of the missing 7 spots. One solid contract to fill the PF slot and we're golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Alex said: Then why take on their salaries? I am not well versed in NBA trades, but does it follow the idea in the NFL that trade for the contract and the player comes with? Salaries have to come close to matching since both teams are over the cap. 1 hour ago, LamarHampton said: Think we will stretch Mo's contract? That possible? that would be next to no impact over the next three years or however long we can stretch it out over. This is Mo's last year no need to stretch, Hawks received cash from Cleveland to cover the remainder of his contract. Dunleavy can be stretched if they wanted to. Per coach Bud Quote “Between injuries and the end of his career, I wouldn’t expect Mo to be a part of us going forward,” Budenholzer said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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