Admin Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Am I crazy to think that he can't be a lesser rebounding but more cerebral and harder working Dwight Howard for the half season that he'll be healthy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flight Posted June 21, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Yes, you are Edited June 21, 2017 by Flight 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Can he guard the PnR? What's his passing ability like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 When have we gotten this PnR defense from Dwight? And he actually wants to roll? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP61 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 I suppose he did have to play decent to get that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 21, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 That Plumlee we got is garbage. The other one is pretty decent. We should trade him with Millsap to Denver for any number of young guys the Nuggs have plus their lottery pick this year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP61 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sothron said: That Plumlee we got is garbage. The other one is pretty decent. We should trade him with Millsap to Denver for any number of young guys the Nuggs have plus their lottery pick this year. Why would they not just sign him themselves. The sign and trades only point is so a team that couldn't normally get him can dump salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sothron said: That Plumlee we got is garbage. The other one is pretty decent. We should trade him with Millsap to Denver for any number of young guys the Nuggs have plus their lottery pick this year. Draft is in 2 days, FAcy starts July 1 - how do we do this now. Suppose Denver likes who falls to them in draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 I take it back. Denver has $58 mil in guaranteed contracts. If you add capholds for Gallo ($22 mil) and Plumlee ($5.8) that'll leave them with $16 mil in capspace. If they renounce Gallo they can sign Millsap outright. (If I read the tables right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Miles is extremely athletic and a sound defender but offensively, he's horrendous in the half court set if he's not setting screens. That said, we aren't trying to win, we are just trading the play Hawks Basketball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragitoff Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 7 hours ago, NBASupes said: Miles is extremely athletic and a sound defender but offensively, he's horrendous in the half court set if he's not setting screens. That said, we aren't trying to win, we are just trading the play Hawks Basketball. Think about your comment though. If Miles is a good screen setter and can play even decent PnR defense, he's a better fit since Dennis prefers the screen to free himself up rather than using the screener as the roll man. We all witnessed how horrid Dwight was on the PnR defense in the playoffs vs. Washington. I definitely don't think Miles is a better player by any means, but could he be a better fit? Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dragitoff said: Think about your comment though. If Miles is a good screen setter and can play even decent PnR defense, he's a better fit since Dennis prefers the screen to free himself up rather than using the screener as the roll man. We all witnessed how horrid Dwight was on the PnR defense in the playoffs vs. Washington. I definitely don't think Miles is a better player by any means, but could he be a better fit? Time will tell. In order for Dennis to be extremely effective on PnR, the roll man much be a threat for more than just dunks. What Antic such an effective PnR big for us was his ability to set great screens and stretch the floor even though he was limited offensively. Plumlee is actually less effective at PnR than even Pero. Look, I loved this trade. That said, I don't think Plumlee value is that good in this deal. But his fit and attitude is much better than Dwight's. Belinelli is the plus value in this deal. Good deal he's on, smart SG, elite shooter and an excellent teammate. He's a specialist but he is a sound one. Overall, Dwight just isn't that good but he's not value awful like Bazemore is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 8 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: I take it back. Denver has $58 mil in guaranteed contracts. If you add capholds for Gallo ($22 mil) and Plumlee ($5.8) that'll leave them with $16 mil in capspace. If they renounce Gallo they can sign Millsap outright. (If I read the tables right) You don't know trades can be in the works. The team we need to worry about signing him outright could be Brooklyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSmith Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Am I crazy to think that he can't be a lesser rebounding but more cerebral and harder working Dwight Howard for the half season that he'll be healthy? You've lost your mind Dolf. Plumlee is terrible. Moose is better. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 39 minutes ago, Dragitoff said: Think about your comment though. If Miles is a good screen setter and can play even decent PnR defense, he's a better fit since Dennis prefers the screen to free himself up rather than using the screener as the roll man. We all witnessed how horrid Dwight was on the PnR defense in the playoffs vs. Washington. I definitely don't think Miles is a better player by any means, but could he be a better fit? Time will tell. I think Plumlee is a better fit than Dwight. He's not worth anywhere near his contract but if he can get his body right and he's coachable (which I'm certain he is) then he could be a terrific rotational piece or he could start and at the very least not drag the young guys down. This kid loves to have fun and make highlight plays and you can bet your ass that Jason Smith won't be punking him without him getting pissed off. I really need to let go of my Schröder-Bebe summer league alley oop images that I keep seeing but damn I want to believe that Dennis can throw that lob and that Plumlee can throw them down like Dwight can when he's trying hard. Soup is right about Bellinelli though as he's a perfect fit for our system and Bud knows him well. We won't have to see Thj out there clanking 3's with nobody to relieve him since we now have a guy who can reliably shoot them under pressure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post lethalweapon3 Posted June 21, 2017 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 My favorite part: "Miles Plumlee CAREER NBA Highlights!" (2:39) ~lw3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 minute ago, ATLSmith said: You've lost your mind Dolf. Plumlee is terrible. Moose is better. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Lol what? Moose is absolute garbage at anything but the occasional 3 and making the fire in @JayBirdHawk's pantsuit with his man bun. I swear that kid literally has no balls. Plumlee would put his schnuts all over Moose and Moose would probably thank him for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 minute ago, lethalweapon3 said: My favorite part: "Miles Plumlee CAREER NBA Highlights!" (2:39) ~lw3 Hey not everyone has a day job as Nicolas Sparks with a highlight list of novels like you do @lethalweapon3! Im not saying he's the second coming and he'll probably end up being dropped and stretch provisioned at some point but you gotta admit that he attacks on both ends and that's something we haven't had in a 7' body in a very, very long time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSmith Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Lol what? Moose is absolute garbage at anything but the occasional 3 and making the fire in @JayBirdHawk's pantsuit with his man bun. I swear that kid literally has no balls. Plumlee would put his schnuts all over Moose and Moose would probably thank him for it. Well, I can't speak for the sexual prowess of Moose as well as you can. It doesnt change the fact that Plumlee is terrible. I mean, thats great if the Hawks are trying to tank but there's no way anyone can rationalize this as any sort of upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Hawks have too damn many white guys. Who goes? Hump, 'Leavy, and Kelly outta here? Y'own outta heeya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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