wolvetigers Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Well atleast we get a 1st rounder out of Milsap....Hawks appear to be going the 76ers route of stacking draft picks. "Can confirm reported proposed 3-way trade between ATL-DEN-LAC. Hawks: Jamal Crawford, Diamond Stone and 1st-round pick. Crawford won't play." https://twitter.com/CVivlamoreAJC Edited July 4, 2017 by wolvetigers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BrazilianHawk Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Yup. But Jamal doesn't even want to get to Atlanta. LOL. I wonder why. This franchise is something, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BrazilianHawk said: Yup. But Jamal doesn't even want to get to Atlanta. LOL. I wonder why. This franchise is something, really. Jamal wants to win, not be apart of any rebuilding effort. We get a 1st round pick and a Center for Bud to develop. Now this is not exciting news, more of a relief that we got something back in return.. Rookie GM grade so far = C- Edited July 4, 2017 by wolvetigers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BrazilianHawk Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, wolvetigers said: Jamal wants to win, not be apart of any rebuilding effort. We get a 1st round pick and a Center for Bud to develop. YAY! Definitely NOT tanking! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, BrazilianHawk said: YAY! Definitely NOT tanking! LOL...yea our rookie GM needs to be honest with the fans...We are tanking... Edited July 4, 2017 by wolvetigers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks3 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Still being proposed. This deal isn't done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS5 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Wouldn't be surprised if it's the Hawks holding up the trade to make sure that we can get something for Crawford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, ATLHawks3 said: Still being proposed. This deal isn't done yet. Finalizing what to do with Crawford... buyout or find a 4th team to route him and his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks3 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, wolvetigers said: Finalizing what to do with Crawford... buyout or find a 4th team to route him and his salary. I'd opt for the latter. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSmith Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Hope this goes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Crawford is set to make $14 million this year. There is a very small number of teams that would be willing to take Crawford's salary considering he is not a starter and below average defender. If we are stuck with Crawford, we will be on the hook for a significant portion of the cap hit (most probably the difference between $14 million (for 2 years) and whatever he signs with another team for). That hit can be stretched over any number of 7 years but using the stretch provision is really not something you want to do in a rebuild as it hinders future dealing. I am not a fan of this trade unless a trade partner can be found for Crawford that brings back young talent. The 1st rounder from Houston will most likely be between 25-30. This is not a great asset for taking on $28 million in salary. The trade-off is too great. Schlenk seems over-matched. I'll reserve judgement to see how the Crawford part works out but thus far I am not impressed. Edited July 4, 2017 by thecampster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, thecampster said: Crawford is set to make $14 million this year. There is a very small number of teams that would be willing to take Crawford's salary considering he is not a starter and below average defender. If we are stuck with Crawford, we will be on the hook for a significant portion of the cap hit (most probably the difference between $14 million (for 2 years) and whatever he signs with another team for). That hit can be stretched over any number of 7 years but using the stretch provision is really not something you want to do in a rebuild as it hinders future dealing. I am not a fan of this trade unless a trade partner can be found for Crawford that brings back young talent. The 1st rounder from Houston will most likely be between 25-30. This is not a great asset for taking on $28 million in salary. The trade-off is too great. Schlenk seems over-matched. I'll reserve judgement to see how the Crawford part works out but thus far I am not impressed. A buyout is likely - unless our good friends in New York or 76ers help us out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Crawford is essentially an expiring, final year is only partially guaranteed so there's no need to stretch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 4, 2017 Moderators Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 hour ago, MaceCase said: Crawford is essentially an expiring, final year is only partially guaranteed so there's no need to stretch. Nothing to stretch. Since the deal is only partially guaranteed (I saw the number of 3M) the cut price is much less than his salary which could make him an attractive trade piece for a team looking to shed salary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Peoriabird Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, AHF said: Nothing to stretch. Since the deal is only partially guaranteed (I saw the number of 3M) the cut price is much less than his salary which could make him an attractive trade piece for a team looking to shed salary. Why do these folk continue to try to attack Schlenk without having all of their facts. They were ready to burn him at the stake yesterday without seeing what will happen later. Then today he is involved in a trade that looks pretty good from our end. The response from a team fan is that he is overmatched...A conclusion drawn from a poster who doesn't know the details of Crawford's contract. I think this is a prime example of what Dolfan was saying yesterday. The Atlanta fan is just different. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: The Atlanta fan is just different. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 So once again the Hawks are going to make a trade solely on the basis of bending over for that team. I love the possibility of having another first round pick that falls outside the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvetigers Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 54 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Why do these folk continue to try to attack Schlenk without having all of their facts. They were ready to burn him at the stake yesterday without seeing what will happen later. Then today he is involved in a trade that looks pretty good from our end. The response from a team fan is that he is overmatched...A conclusion drawn from a poster who doesn't know the details of Crawford's contract. I think this is a prime example of what Dolfan was saying yesterday. The Atlanta fan is just different. Will wait to see what the roster looks like at the end of the summer....He said we were not tanking yet all signs point to that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 3 hours ago, BrazilianHawk said: YAY! Definitely NOT tanking! 3 hours ago, wolvetigers said: LOL...yea our rookie GM needs to be honest with the fans...We are tanking... 11 minutes ago, wolvetigers said: Will wait to see what the roster looks like at the end of the summer....He said we were not tanking yet all signs point to that... Oh, is Schlenkholzer trading away Dennis and Prince for cheaper guys and picks? Hmmm, I missed that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, hazer said: Oh, is Schlenkholzer trading away Dennis and Prince for cheaper guys and picks? Hmmm, I missed that... He hasn't made a single move that would help the team compete this year. Look at the roster. This is a tank job, and it is a definitive red mark on Travis Schlenk at this point. I was hoping he was smart enough to not tank the roster to the bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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