Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 This Jeopardy question occurred to me just as I see Zach Randolph signs with SAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/john-collins/ Thought Mo Speights was an interesting comparison. If he ever developed any defensive ability at all, he could have been a full-time starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jody23 Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) For some reason, when I see him I think of Alan Henderson. Edited July 4, 2017 by Jody23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GameTime Posted July 4, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I've heard a less athletic, better rebounding Amare Stoudemire and a more athletic/explosive Enes Kanter. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2017 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jody23 said: For some reason, when I see him I think of Alan Henderson. $1000 answer from the Jeopardy category, Forgotten Hawks Names Best Left Forgotten... hehe... Hopefully, not Collins' ceiling, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP61 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, GameTime said: I've heard a less athletic, better rebounding Amare Stoudemire and a more athletic/explosive Enes Kanter. I agree with this. I think ceiling though is Tristan Thompson with a jump shot. He's a hard one to comp for me though. Enes Kanter is the most likely outcome to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2017 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, CP61 said: I agree with this. I think ceiling though is Tristan Thompson with a jump shot. He's a hard one to comp for me though. Enes Kanter is the most likely outcome to me. Kanter? I'm thinking Collins is much quicker and better hops, but without Kanter's passing ability. So sticking with Z-Bo for now, ceiling-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP61 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, sturt said: Kanter? I'm thinking Collins is much quicker and better hops, but without Kanter's passing ability. So sticking with Z-Bo for now, ceiling-wise. Kanter is more an impact than athletic comp. Edited July 4, 2017 by CP61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) All I've gathered is that he's old school as hell. I enjoy watching True 4s much more than Stretch ones but can you buck the NBA trend with a rookie? Not a fan of all the "we can work on his jumpshot" business either. I've only seen snippets but he doesn't look as athletic as he's been pegged as. Nice handles though. If he's active and confident defending PNR I'll be very encouraged. Edited July 4, 2017 by benhillboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBac Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Cody Zeller with a jumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2017 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Slightly shorter (6-9) and definitely heavier (250) than Collins even at that age, but setting aside the non-game descriptives doesn't this sound a whole lot like the guy we just got at #19? Oh. And I'd long since forgotten if I ever even knew it in the first place... Z-Bo's draft slot? Yep. Same. Fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sturt said: Slightly shorter (6-9) and definitely heavier (250) than Collins even at that age, but setting aside the non-game descriptives doesn't this sound a whole lot like the guy we just got at #19? Oh. And I'd long since forgotten if I ever even knew it in the first place... Z-Bo's draft slot? Yep. Same. Fwiw. What about Reef? Probably not a good comparison from the clips I've seen. I do have to agree with the poster that said that Collins doesn't look as athletic as advertised. Edited July 4, 2017 by Hotlanta1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 4, 2017 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Maybe, @Hotlanta1981.... but I don't recall Reef being so criticized for his defense, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sturt said: Maybe, @Hotlanta1981.... but I don't recall Reef being so criticized for his defense, do you? I don't watch college ball, but NBA wise I thought Reef was kind of average on that end. But it's been more than a decade and so perhaps my memory is off. Decent enough as long as he didn't have to out of his way to make a play. Edited July 4, 2017 by Hotlanta1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Lighter/weaker Al Jefferson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cam1218 Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I'm way behind in a lot of sports news and evaluating our picks fullly, so I'm just throwing a name out there. It seems his defense needs work so this is an offensive comp. I read he is a guy that can bang but needs some work on his frame to do it in the NBA. Good form on his shot but needs work on that too. We all know he will work on his shot to fit into modern day NBA, so does anyone see best case offensively we get a younger David West? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 The word on Collins is that he is capable from 15 feet, but that was not utilized in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member aali34 Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I'm feeling spontaneous Blake Griffin with less vision and a bit less athletic but a better rebounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member aali34 Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, cam1218 said: I'm way behind in a lot of sports news and evaluating our picks fullly, so I'm just throwing a name out there. It seems his defense needs work so this is an offensive comp. I read he is a guy that can bang but needs some work on his frame to do it in the NBA. Good form on his shot but needs work on that too. We all know he will work on his shot to fit into modern day NBA, so does anyone see best case offensively we get a younger David West? He is more athletic than west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cam1218 Posted July 4, 2017 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, aali34 said: He is more athletic than west Agree with that, I'm just looking at overall numbers and what you can expect him to do offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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