DBac Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Joe Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GThawks3 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 11 hours ago, KB21 said: Again, you have two non shooting bigs trying to fit them together. You will destroy the spacing of the offense. That doesn't even take into account that Bamba is a net zero offensively. The decision on this pick should be easy. If Doncic isn't there, you take Jaren Jackson Jr. JJJ is by far the best fit along side John Collins, and he's a better prospect than Bagley/Bamba as well. Bagley is the superior prospect to either Bamba or JJJ. JJJ/Collins are two foul prone bigs...something I don’t like. Plus JJJ screams the next Noah Vonleh to me. Bagley is a potential superstar but I’m starting to get worried he goes #2. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted May 29, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Nerlans Noel is the comparison for Bamba ... we could easily get him in free agency and not waste a pick on Bamba ... it comes down to Bagley or Doncic at 3 ... otherwise u look at JJJ or Porter ... 3 is way to high for Bamba. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk88 Posted May 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, GThawks3 said: Bagley is the superior prospect to either Bamba or JJJ. JJJ/Collins are two foul prone bigs...something I don’t like. Plus JJJ screams the next Noah Vonleh to me. Bagley is a potential superstar but I’m starting to get worried he goes #2. JJJ=Vonleh yeah way to close to me. And who wants to wait 3 years on JJJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ropadope Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 It's really scary that Bamba is being mentioned as a top 3 pick. His measurables area great, but just watching him play I'm not seeing being that kind of impact player down the road. In today's NBA, using a top 5 pick for a potential rim protector with very limited offense is questionable. Bagley or Doncic has gotta be the pick. Offensive upside is the way to go and these guys look like difference makers. Porter or Young would also be better picks than JJJ or Bamba as well, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, GThawks3 said: Bagley is the superior prospect to either Bamba or JJJ. JJJ/Collins are two foul prone bigs...something I don’t like. Plus JJJ screams the next Noah Vonleh to me. Bagley is a potential superstar but I’m starting to get worried he goes #2. JJJ is a better shoot and infinitely better defender than Bagley. He's also a lot longer, higher BBIQ...etc. Bagley is a highlight guy that ESPN showed a lot of, so fans naturally think he's a potential superstar when he's just a duplication of what we already have in John Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted May 29, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 51 minutes ago, KB21 said: JJJ is a better shoot and infinitely better defender than Bagley. He's also a lot longer, higher BBIQ...etc. Bagley is a highlight guy that ESPN showed a lot of, so fans naturally think he's a potential superstar when he's just a duplication of what we already have in John Collins. A lot of bullshit was stated in this post. A lot of bullshit. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Hawk88 said: JJJ=Vonleh yeah way to close to me. And who wants to wait 3 years on JJJ. Seriously, this one isn't that far off either. They even have the same frame. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, NBASupes said: A lot of bullshit was stated in this post. A lot of bullshit. Lmao...supes you make me smile even when the scrubs made the finals again...your one passionate ma Fcker and I’ll never hate on that! Lol. Would you say this contained a “plethora” of bullshit? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 If JJJ is the next Noah Vonleh, then Marvin Bagley is the next Michael Beasley, who Travis Schenk is apparently interested in signing this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Harlem Larry Sanders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, KB21 said: If JJJ is the next Noah Vonleh, then Marvin Bagley is the next Michael Beasley, who Travis Schenk is apparently interested in signing this off season. Bagley is the next Bagley and JJJ is the next JJJ but Bagley is more likely to be a superstar than JJJ. Dont believe any rumor that says we are interested in a FA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted May 29, 2018 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Dont believe any rumor that says we are interested in a FA. Yes, please don't. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Bagley is the next Bagley and JJJ is the next JJJ but Bagley is more likely to be a superstar than JJJ. Dont believe any rumor that says we are interested in a FA. This idea that Bagley is more likely to be a superstar than JJJ is based upon exactly what? That he has a great second jump? ESPN had more highlights of him, and that has trained your mind into believing that he is this guaranteed superstar player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GThawks3 Posted May 29, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, KB21 said: This idea that Bagley is more likely to be a superstar than JJJ is based upon exactly what? That he has a great second jump? ESPN had more highlights of him, and that has trained your mind into believing that he is this guaranteed superstar player? Well let’s see.. Balgley dominated on a loaded Duke team that has potentially 5 first round picks as an 18 year old freshman. JJJ was never dominatant on a less talented MSU team. 21 and 11 as an 18 year old freshman after being hyped as a big time player since he was what 13? In what world does JJJ have a better shot to be a superstar than Bagley. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, GThawks3 said: Well let’s see.. Balgley dominated on a loaded Duke team that has potentially 5 first round picks as an 18 year old freshman. JJJ was never dominatant on a less talented MSU team. 21 and 11 as an 18 year old freshman after being hyped as a big time player since he was what 13? In what world does JJJ have a better shot to be a superstar than Bagley. JJJ has a much higher BPM and is a dominant defender, whereas Bagley is a great rim runner that can't shoot and a terrible defender. So, you have JJJ who can defend and shoot and Bagley who can do neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GThawks3 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, KB21 said: JJJ has a much higher BPM and is a dominant defender, whereas Bagley is a great rim runner that can't shoot and a terrible defender. So, you have JJJ who can defend and shoot and Bagley who can do neither. Bagley can’t shoot based on what? He shot 40% from 3 this year. Not too bad for an 18 year old. He has the potential to be a very good 3 point/mid range shooter. Remember how people thought Tatum wasn’t a good defender? I think Bagley’s defense looked worse in Duke’s scheme than it really is. JJJ is the better defender but Bagley can be a decent defender in time. Difference is that Bagley is the superior offensive player and rebounder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, GThawks3 said: Bagley can’t shoot based on what? He shot 40% from 3 this year. Not too bad for an 18 year old. He has the potential to be a very good 3 point/mid range shooter. Remember how people thought Tatum wasn’t a good defender? I think Bagley’s defense looked worse in Duke’s scheme than it really is. JJJ is the better defender but Bagley can be a decent defender in time. Difference is that Bagley is the superior offensive player and rebounder. Honestly Duke pretty much makes all their players look like terrible defenders if we're being honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, KB21 said: JJJ has a much higher BPM and is a dominant defender, whereas Bagley is a great rim runner that can't shoot and a terrible defender. So, you have JJJ who can defend and shoot and Bagley who can do neither. Marvin had a great BPM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 54 minutes ago, GThawks3 said: Bagley can’t shoot based on what? He shot 40% from 3 this year. Not too bad for an 18 year old. He has the potential to be a very good 3 point/mid range shooter. Remember how people thought Tatum wasn’t a good defender? I think Bagley’s defense looked worse in Duke’s scheme than it really is. JJJ is the better defender but Bagley can be a decent defender in time. Difference is that Bagley is the superior offensive player and rebounder. It was on a low volume, and he's a 63% free throw shooter. His shot will not translate to the NBA. He's also limited to using his left hand only as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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