kg01 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, Diesel said: Honestly, I don't think that anybody should try to find the next Curry. It's a lot more than Shooting that makes a Curry. This may be the next Harold Miner. I hate 'the next'. Has that ever worked out? If they think Young can be great in his own right, then take him. But I don't wanna hear they took him because he can be the next Curry or Nash or any other great. Stop chasing ghosts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted June 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Lets give Steve Kyler our draft board. lol Two out of four have the Hawks picking MPJ. http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2018-nba-consensus-mock-draft-ver-6-0/ Quote BASKETBALL INSIDERS (STEVE KYLER) 1. C DeAndre Ayton, Suns 2. PF Marvin Bagley III, Kings3. SF Michael Porter Jr., Hawks 4. PG Luka Doncic, Grizzlies 5. PF/C Wendell Carter, Mavericks 6. F Jaren Jackson Jr., Magic 7. PF Mohamed Bamba, Bulls 8. SF Mikal Bridges, Cavaliers 9. PG Trae Young, Knicks 10. SF Kevin Knox, 76ers 19. SG Donte DiVincenzo, Hawks 30. PG Jalen Brunson, Hawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 13, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 hours ago, PSSSHHHRRR87 said: Only thing is Collins would have to continue developing his midrange jumper. I don't see any set of circumstances where he doesn't need to keep developing his jumper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpilo Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Still think the same, top 3 are Ayton, Doncic and Bagley... i have now Bagley ranked ahead of Doncic, outside of those 3 is Bamba and Porter hands down. I would be happy with Bagley, all-star potential but I think he is going 2nd, so is down to Doncic, Bamba and Porter and for some reason I am beginning to think Bamba is the best fit. Would not be mad if we end with Doncic or Porter and would definately be mad if we end with JJJ. Don’t think we are considering Young, hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 My mind has changed again. lol Im back on the Bamba train..Highest upside of anyone imo.. Deke with an offensive game to match is what I see in his future. Imagine that.(Dude hit 80% from 3 in a recent workout)..He'll be there at #3. Just take him... #3 Bamba #19 Elie Okobo or Aaron Holiday #30 Josh Okogie #34 Melvin Frazier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Bamba at #3 AND Doncic at #4.... Get it done Travis......................As much as I dont want Chandler Parsons in a Hawks uniform..(He was Deandre's neighbor when he played for the Rockets, and is an asshole. lol) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 18, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, terrell said: Bamba at #3 AND Doncic at #4.... Get it done Travis......................As much as I dont want Chandler Parsons in a Hawks uniform..(He was Deandre's neighbor when he played for the Rockets, and is an asshole. lol) Can’t believe Memphis would do this but I’m all on board for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Bamba at #3 AND Doncic at #4.... Get it done Travis......................As much as I dont want Chandler Parsons in a Hawks uniform..(He was Deandre's neighbor when he played for the Rockets, and is an asshole. lol) That would be the draft of a lifetime if he could get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, AHF said: Can’t believe Memphis would do this but I’m all on board for this. I agree..But anything is possible..With that said, I could see Bagley or Doncic fitting in nicely with Gasol/Conley.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, nathan2331 said: 33 minutes ago, terrell said: Bamba at #3 AND Doncic at #4.... Get it done Travis......................As much as I dont want Chandler Parsons in a Hawks uniform..(He was Deandre's neighbor when he played for the Rockets, and is an asshole. lol) That would be the draft of a lifetime if he could get it done. He'd still get criticized around here by some. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 hour ago, terrell said: He'd still get criticized around here by some. lol Yeah me because Doncic isn’t a top 5 prospect in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Yeah me because Doncic isn’t a top 5 prospect in my eyes. Why don't you like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, nathan2331 said: 4 minutes ago, EazyRoc said: Yeah me because Doncic isn’t a top 5 prospect in my eyes. Why don't you like him? He’s as savvy, skilled, and accomplished as they come for a prospect. I just am not a believer in his athletic ability and fear his impact will be limited once he comes to the NBA. As much as I see the skills, athleticism does matter in the NBA much more than it does in any of the Euro leagues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 He’s as savvy, skilled, and accomplished as they come for a prospect. I just am not a believer in his athletic ability and fear his impact will be limited once he comes to the NBA. As much as I see the skills, athleticism does matter in the NBA much more than it does in any of the Euro leagues. Can't say I find fault with what you said. I just think his skill level is so high he will find ways to mitigate his lack of elite athleticism. Especially if he's played as a point guard. I don't think he'll be a league leader in scoring, but he'll be able to contribute to winning basketball in many different ways. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 16 hours ago, EazyRoc said: He’s as savvy, skilled, and accomplished as they come for a prospect. I just am not a believer in his athletic ability and fear his impact will be limited once he comes to the NBA. As much as I see the skills, athleticism does matter in the NBA much more than it does in any of the Euro leagues. Harden, CP3, Curry, Thompson, Deron Williams, Rondo, etc....were never that athletic. They just have/ had "savvy and skills".. Just sayin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, terrell said: Harden, CP3, Curry, Thompson, Deron Williams, Rondo, etc....were never that athletic. They just have/ had "savvy and skills".. Just sayin. Yes no doubt. I would recommend just re-watching Doncic in that context though. I was largely neutral on him until I realized we might draft him. Once I started seeing tape, I noticed one common thread. He struggled to beat his defender off the dribble without a screen AND wasn’t consistently punishing the big man who switched on him. It’s unfortunate because literally everything else about the guy screams star to me. I’m believe he will not be average athletically like those guys you stated. I fear he’d actually be below average to the point where it hinders his game. I’m sure all of you remember how much Joe declined after his first couple seasons here ? He reminds me of THAT Joe Johnson with better IQ, playmaking, and worse defense. The Joe that used to drive us crazy because he just didn’t have the wheels to beat the man in front of him. That was immediately who I thought of once I started watching tape of him around the web. He’s going to live and die by his jump shot IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotha2ThaNite Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 52 minutes ago, terrell said: Harden, CP3, Curry, Thompson, Deron Williams, Rondo, etc....were never that athletic. They just have/ had "savvy and skills".. Just sayin. Too me... Everyone you named are pretty fast with the handles. Deron Wiliams might be the only one who wasn't. In fact... That's just who Doncic might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 18, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 18 hours ago, nathan2331 said: Can't say I find fault with what you said. I just think his skill level is so high he will find ways to mitigate his lack of elite athleticism. Especially if he's played as a point guard. I don't think he'll be a league leader in scoring, but he'll be able to contribute to winning basketball in many different ways. Agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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