thecampster Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 http://www.shamsports.com/capulator So we are entering silly season again. With the NBA Finals all but over, the draft in 2 weeks and free agency shortly after that, you will hear of deals, rumors of deals and many people swearing they are in the know. So before any of that nonsense gets started, forcing me to into a keyboard damaging tirade of virtual nerd fighting (type him in the face he yelled), I wanted to share this tool for all to use. Before you go posting how we can trade a 2023 2nd round pick for Gordon Hayward and 3 future 1st rounders, you might want to check this tool to see the cap situation of each team in question and whether or not it jives with cap, LT and CBA. http://www.shamsports.com/capulator What prompted this? In the last few days, I have read no less than 7 articles all pretending to know where Lebron James is going to sign in the offseason. The most discussed location per the experts, Boston. Just an FYI, in order to give Lebron even a $20 million dollar contract (he's worth way more but lets pretend he'd take a pay cut for another ring), Boston would need to clear $65,000,000 in cap space or convince Lebron to sign for the mid-level exception. The 2nd most talked about destination is Philly who technically could sign him for that, they would need to clear about $55,000,000 in cap space by renouncing their player rights to a combination of JJ Rdick, Amir Johnson, Trevor Booker, Ersan Ilyasova and Marco Belinelli. If Lebron wanted his full contract value, they couldn't accomplish it even if they renounced every damn body they can. So as you read or listen to deals and rumors of deals during the coming 7 week NBApocolypse and hang on the words of Stephen A (who by the way is the joker who listed 6 or 7 teams that Lebron can't even sign with due to the cap), just check your work on http://www.shamsports.com/capulator Too lazy to do your own research? What to know where the Hawks stand? First, the tool is missing the #3 overall selection. That has to be added back to any numbers the tool shows. If the Hawks renounce all of their expiring players, and including all incoming 1st round rookie salaries, they will sit at $19,573,152 in cap room when free agency starts (give or take a penny or two). Now this salary number includes Dwayne Dedmon and Mike Muscala, both of which have a player option for this year (6,300,000 and 5,000,00 respectively). So Muscala will most like accept and steal a bit more money this year, while Dedmon will probably opt out to sign a multi-year deal elsewhere. Assume we have Dedmon's money available and also assume the 2nd round pick makes the roster at $582,180. That's 14 players on the roster, 1 slot available and cap room of $25,290,972. That's it...that's all you get and those numbers are merely estimates as the NBA hasn't released the official cap yet. So again, http://www.shamsports.com/capulator and think before you post or risk public flogging. You can also use https://hoopshype.com/salaries/ but it is slow to update and you have to click the team name and dig for detailed information for cap holds and such. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q84 This link starts at the parts about the financial aspects of trades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 One last note when looking at rookie salaries...they are inflated for the cap hold until signed. Figure that in to your calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 All this tells everyone is, "Who can't." I'll bet "The King" would like to know who can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragitoff Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Thanks for this! That's a great site and truly helpful. Despite you providing this link, there will inevitably be people posting ridiculous scenarios. Fight the good fight my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted June 8, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 I misread the title and thought this was about Shawn Kemp! Great find from Shams! ~lw3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosgrim Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 8 hours ago, thecampster said: http://www.shamsports.com/capulator . Before you go posting how we can trade a 2023 2nd round pick for Gordon Hayward and 3 future 1st rounders. Wait, we are completely getting killed in that trade. the 2023 2nd rounder will be a HOF, and we know Hayward is done, and Schlenk can't make 1st round picks. But this would help LeBron force his way to Boston. /sarcasm In all seriousness, thanks for posting the links. Super helpful. But, per Schlenk's comments, the Hawks are going to sit on that cap space, or spend it on "bad" contracts to get future 1st round picks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 So other thread discussion, I got an idea. The common NBA trade. If you are going to propose a signing or trade....it should fit into the common NBA categories. Signings Type 1 - 1 year filler. (Usually player idea to up his value. These deals almost always benefit the team.) Type 2 - 1-2 years with an option. (Usually team idea for flexibility. These deals almost always benefit the team). Type 3 - 4 year. (Usually player idea to lock in his value. Teams tend to overpay. These deals almost always benefit the player). So example - Muscala has little options of getting a multi-year deal for more than $5 million a year outside of the Hawks. He will most likely exercise his 1 year option. Dedmon has multiple potential locations for a 2+1 deal and 4 year deals. He will most likely opt out and sign elsewhere (here is also a possibility). Trades Type 1 - Player for Player. These deals almost always are to fill a need, reduce years and change salary requirements. Often these trades involve trading a player with more salary for less salary to free up cap space or reduce the Luxury Tax. Type 2 - Player for Players + picks. These deals are almost always giving up a good player with a higher salary for multiple players with lower salaries and a pick to sweeten the deal. These deals always involve cap implications. If proposing these trades....explain the value to each team. LT saving, cap saving, future siging, etc. Type 3 - Picks for Picks. A very easy (but complicated rule) here. Pick value = 61 - pick number (p) Trade value = P1 = P2 +1/4 P3. Example 3rd pick = 58. 34th pick = 27. 6th pick = 55, 22nd pick = 38. So 58+(27/4) =64.75 pv. 55+(34/4)=63.5. These trades would be close but team two would probably have to add a late second. In this scenario, team 1 is giving up more. This isn't perfect but a good formula to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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