thecampster Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, thecampster said: Depth chart post trades/draft Young/Lin/ either Dorsey/Adams/Maybe Robinson Baze/Heurter/Bembry Prince/Anderson/ Collins/Spellman/ Dedmon/Plumlee/ Not sure who I'm missing. So current roster looks more like that (Adams is on a 2 way, Robinson is not signed). So 3 roster slots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 19, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said: I'm not sure it's worth a separate thread, but do we have a Hall of Fame hallway worth of Trade-and-Buyout guys in our Hawks history? Melo, Gary Payton, Jamal, Jamison... who else am I forgetting? ~lw3 To my memory, we were part of the first ever trade of this kind, and received this war horse on his very last leg... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Don't know what else happens but just don't see Dorsey handling point for any remotely meaningful minutes. Trae, Lin when he is ready and Bembry right now. Seems a vet at point may be around the corner or one of our myriad of youngsters have a shot as well. When exactly is Lin ready to hit the court? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 So we traded Dennis for a 2022 first rounder that likely becomes 2 second rounders based on OKC’s contention window (namely George’s contract). It seems to me that you either give heavy protection or push the pick off for 4 years, but not both. From where I’m sitting it looks like Schlenk is a poor trade negotiator. That bodes very poorly for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, CBAreject said: So we traded Dennis for a 2022 first rounder that likely becomes 2 second rounders based on OKC’s contention window (namely George’s contract). It seems to me that you either give heavy protection or push the pick off for 4 years, but not both. From where I’m sitting it looks like Schlenk is a poor trade negotiator. That bodes very poorly for us. No, we traded Dennis for playing time for Young and this deal creates 18 million in cap space next year (technically 5 of that was already created when we would have rejected resigning Moose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 19, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, CBAreject said: So we traded Dennis for a 2022 first rounder that likely becomes 2 second rounders based on OKC’s contention window (namely George’s contract). It seems to me that you either give heavy protection or push the pick off for 4 years, but not both. From where I’m sitting it looks like Schlenk is a poor trade negotiator. That bodes very poorly for us. Remember that this is actually the first pick that OKC can trade. I'd put top 14 protection for a team that currently has both Westbrook and George under contract for that season as a moderate protection. Reality is that this trade was done primarily to clear Dennis off our future cap and to turn the keys over to Trae. Not many people willing to take Dennis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said: I'm not sure it's worth a separate thread, but do we have a Hall of Fame hallway worth of Trade-and-Buyout guys in our Hawks history? Melo, Gary Payton, Jamal, Jamison... who else am I forgetting? ~lw3 Terrell Brandon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GameTime Posted July 19, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, AHF said: Remember that this is actually the first pick that OKC can trade. I'd put top 14 protection for a team that currently has both Westbrook and George under contract for that season as a moderate protection. Reality is that this trade was done primarily to clear Dennis off our future cap and to turn the keys over to Trae. Not many people willing to take Dennis. And lowkey trading Moose gives Spellman consistent minutes in the rotation now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBac Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Another positive is that at least FO/Coaches will stop wasting time pretending that Dennis + Trae would've worked on the floor at the same time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 19, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, CBAreject said: So we traded Dennis for a 2022 first rounder that likely becomes 2 second rounders based on OKC’s contention window (namely George’s contract). It seems to me that you either give heavy protection or push the pick off for 4 years, but not both. From where I’m sitting it looks like Schlenk is a poor trade negotiator. That bodes very poorly for us. Actually, no, I don't want their 1st round pick in the next couple of years, so 2022 is just fine by me. I think the real beef is that it is lottery protected AND turns to 2 second-rounders so quickly. But I made that point before learning we were getting Justin Anderson... not that Anderson walks in as anything but a rotation player, but that I think he's a quality asset that we get to control for two years pretty cheap, annnnnnnnnd, but that one automatically assumes in a situation like this where your new head coach had him in the previous position... it opens up the possibility that, though it will never be a home run, this trade might represent a single or even a double when we look back on it in a few years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 What's very clear, or should be very clear, is that the Hawks impetus to do this trade has more to do with getting rid of Dennis Schröder and less to do with getting that pick down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, GameTime said: And lowkey trading Moose gives Spellman consistent minutes in the rotation now. Depends on who we sign. Hawks sit at 12 players under contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrique Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Sothron said: What's the protection on the OKC 2022 first? Picks 1-14 protected...let me find that link. Unfortunately it becomes 2 seconds next year;( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deester11 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: I have a feeling you are KB? Is he ur Brad? Now Spud, that's crossing the line! I'm never crossing over to the dark side...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBAreject Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, KB21 said: What's very clear, or should be very clear, is that the Hawks impetus to do this trade has more to do with getting rid of Dennis Schröder and less to do with getting that pick down the road. Yes, that is the point. We wanted to dump Dennis without taking back a long contract. Mission accomplished. I think this trade works well for OKC and we could’ve argued for lesser protection, and I can’t shake the sense that Schlenk has let two trades involving a future pick get dictated to him on the other team’s terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 19, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Oh the irony if Mop Head Lucas came back to his draft home, eh??? (... I mean, as his draft pal Dennis exits, that is.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, thecampster said: From last year: https://www.hoopsrumors.com/justin-anderson “Look, they had an extremely difficult situation,” Nelson said of the Sixers, per Tim MacMahon of ESPN.com. “They were overstocked at the center position. You’re looking at basically the possibility of a couple-month rental, and so I think they did the best that they could with the situation they had. It was really a need position for us, and it was taking the best possible deal they could get. They like Justin Anderson a lot. He is the critical piece, and it was hard for us to give them that piece.” Please stop. If Justin Anderson sees the light of day in the regular rotation, it means that Kevin Huerter is a complete bust, and Bembry is buried in the G-League. Mike Scott is a better shooting SG than Anderson . . . and Molly Mike was a PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member AtlHomer Posted July 19, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, enrique said: Picks 1-14 protected...let me find that link. Unfortunately it becomes 2 seconds next year;( Details of trade from ESPN: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24141942/oklahoma-city-thunder-trade-carmelo-anthony-atlanta-hawks-dennis-Schröder-mike-muscala 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 19, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Anderson is built more like a PJ Tucker. He's not going to be competing for minutes at SG, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBac Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Needless to say Trae understands the ramifications of today 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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